All Gems Down?

[Joshua Ballanco]

I think I must be the only one using allgems.ruby-forum.com. It seems
to have been down for almost a week now. Anyone know what's up?

- Josh

 

[Josh Cheek]

[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]

I think I must be the only one using allgems.ruby-forum.com. It seems to
have been down for almost a week now. Anyone know what's up?

- Josh

Might have something to do with
"Gemcutter Is The New Official Default RubyGem Host"
http://www.rubyinside.com/gemcutter-is-the-new-official-default-rubygem-host-2659.html

- also Josh

 

[Joshua Ballanco]

Might have something to do with
"Gemcutter Is The New Official Default RubyGem Host"
http://www.rubyinside.com/gemcutter-is-the-new-official-default-rubygem-host-2659.html

Well, as much as I'd like to see allgems.ruby-forum.com functionality
on gemcutter.org, it's not there yet. Allgems had hosted rdoc
documentation for all gems (hence the title) in one spot. Much nicer
than searching each projects individual locations for documentation.

- Josh

 

[Rick DeNatale]

Well, as much as I'd like to see allgems.ruby-forum.com functionality on
gemcutter.org, it's not there yet. Allgems had hosted rdoc documentation for
all gems (hence the title) in one spot. Much nicer than searching each
projects individual locations for documentation.

Well, this new? site looks promising:

http://rdoc.info/


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[Jordi Bunster]

 

[spox]

I think I must be the only one using allgems.ruby-forum.com. It seems
to have been down for almost a week now. Anyone know what's up?

- Josh

I'll see if I can get a hold of Roger Pack and see what's currently wrong with
the site. A new version of the site is currently being worked on that is able
to scale a bit better and is a bit faster. I'm hoping it should be rolling out
by this weekend.

- spox

 

[Joshua Ballanco]

Well, this new? site looks promising:

http://rdoc.info/

Ah, yes...but they're not using the Hanna RDoc template (http://github.com/mislav/hanna
). That was Allgems killer feature!

- Josh

 

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

Ah, yes...but they're not using the Hanna RDoc template
(http://github.com/mislav/hanna
). That was Allgems killer feature!

I believe Gitrdoc uses Hanna, but it doesn't work as well as rdoc.info.

- Josh

Best,

 

[Roger Pack]

I think I must be the only one using allgems.ruby-forum.com. It seems
to have been down for almost a week now. Anyone know what's up?

- Josh

Hope to be back up by tomorrow. Sorry for the downtime
-r

 

[Joshua Ballanco]

Hope to be back up by tomorrow. Sorry for the downtime
-r

No worries! Allgems is easily the best free service I've ever used...
In fact, I'd pay (especially if the search functionality worked across
gems)! ;-)

Cheers,

Josh

 

[Roger Pack]

No worries! Allgems is easily the best free service I've ever used...
In fact, I'd pay (especially if the search functionality worked across
gems)! ;-)

Wow just for that I'll keep it running just for you
The current code base is under some serious modification but hopes to be
even better http://github.com/spox/allgems

What type of search would you like exactly? (like it searches
descriptions, as well? source code?)
-r

 

[Joshua Ballanco]

Wow just for that I'll keep it running just for you
The current code base is under some serious modification but hopes
to be
even better http://github.com/spox/allgems

What type of search would you like exactly? (like it searches
descriptions, as well? source code?)

Hey, awesome! I didn't realize the code was on GitHub... If/when I get
some time I'll have to give a look. As for searching, there are two
improvements I'd love to see: 1. Filtering of Classes the same way you
can filter methods. For methods, the search is nice for
discoverability. For classes, I'd like the search just so that my
scrolling finger doesn't get tired on some of the larger gems. 2. An
across gem search. Honestly something like what ri can do across
classes would be enough. When I see an unfamiliar 'zabraboof' method,
instead of having to go back through the source to find what all gems
were included at any point, it'd be nice to be able to go to Allgems
and just search for it.

Finally, as a sort of "out-there" suggestion... I got to thinking how
nice it would be to have a sort of "personalized" Allgems page. What
I'm imagining is a combination of some very basic (unauthenticated,
even) account tracking on the web app combined with a gem plugin. The
plugin would get a list of the gems installed on your system and push
them to Allgems. Then you could log-in to Allgems and see only the
documentation for the gems you currently have installed. Just an idea...

Cheers, and keep up the good work!

- Josh

 

[Roger Pack]

Then you could log-in to Allgems and see only the

documentation for the gems you currently have installed. Just an idea...

Oh wow that would be awesome. Something like
$ allgems sync # tells it that user x currently has gems y

Thanks for the feedback!
-r

 

[Daniel Berger]

 

[Roger Pack]

On an unrelated note, how did you generate that pretty backtrace
information? Looks slick.

Hmm. Where is the slick backtrace again?

there are two
improvements I'd love to see: 1. Filtering of Classes the same way you
can filter methods. For methods, the search is nice for
discoverability.

Yeah I pinged mislav about this once and he said it was in the works for
a future revision of hanna, so hopefully we'll see it (it's high on my
own wish list, too, especially for core which has so many classes)

2. An
across gem search. Honestly something like what ri can do across
classes would be enough. When I see an unfamiliar 'zabraboof' method,
instead of having to go back through the source to find what all gems
were included at any point, it'd be nice to be able to go to Allgems
and just search for it.

so this is just "search for method name x" and it finds the gem that
contains it?

Finally, as a sort of "out-there" suggestion... I got to thinking how
nice it would be to have a sort of "personalized" Allgems page. What
I'm imagining is a combination of some very basic (unauthenticated,
even) account tracking on the web app combined with a gem plugin. The
plugin would get a list of the gems installed on your system and push
them to Allgems. Then you could log-in to Allgems and see only the
documentation for the gems you currently have installed. Just an idea...

So this would be instead of the "massive list" a smaller list with just
installed gems?
Would something unauthenticated and privacy invasive like
/username [you specify it] be enough?
Thanks!
-r

 

[Joshua Ballanco]

Dan Berger wrote:
=20
=20
Hmm. Where is the slick backtrace again?

I think perhaps he means the spew from Passenger... I have to admit, =
Passenger's error panes always made me feel just a tiny bit less rage at =
seeing that something was broken.

=20
so this is just "search for method name x" and it finds the gem that=20=

contains it?

Yup, that would be awesome.

Finally, as a sort of "out-there" suggestion... I got to thinking how
nice it would be to have a sort of "personalized" Allgems page. What
I'm imagining is a combination of some very basic (unauthenticated,
even) account tracking on the web app combined with a gem plugin. The
plugin would get a list of the gems installed on your system and push
them to Allgems. Then you could log-in to Allgems and see only the
documentation for the gems you currently have installed. Just an =

idea...
=20
So this would be instead of the "massive list" a smaller list with = just=20
installed gems?
Would something unauthenticated and privacy invasive like
/username [you specify it] be enough?

Yeah. Actually, I don't think it has to be "/username" specifically. It =
could be any custom string. I don't think there's a need for any =
authentication/privacy either, since any gem indexed by Allgems is, by =
definition, publicly available. Actually, I'm thinking these lists could =
be something to share with friends/co-workers (i.e. like Twitter lists). =
They might even serve as a useful way to collect a group of related gems =
(and maybe, with some Gem Bundler collaboration-foo, to install them as =
well)...so you could, for example, have the "Rails App with Avatar =
Thumbnail" package which might include Rails+dependencies, =
RMagick+dependencies, and Paperclip. Then the web page gives you one =
location to see documentation for just those gems.

Just an idea...

- Josh=

 

[Roger Pack]

I think I must be the only one using allgems.ruby-forum.com. It seems
to have been down for almost a week now. Anyone know what's up?

Good news. Looks like rdoc.info finally decided to do all gems.

http://rdoc.info/gems