C
Chris F.A. Johnson
URL?
URL?
T
Travis Newbury
So, any thoughts on the new google browser?
D
dorayme
"Chris F.A. Johnson said:URL?
No need, Travis, you are welcome to include the code on this one
occasion.
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Travis Newbury
Apparently not... Because no one else seems to have an opinion I
guess I will add my own...
First, the world uses google. So if they come out with an "easy to
install browser", and suggests to googleites that it would be good to
use it, I would assume that it will grab a nice chunk of the market
very fast. I would guess at the very least it will almost instantly
catch up with firefox. This is especially true if the said browser
actually does a good job of displaying pages.
With a little reading, it looks like Google is moving in the direction
of adding the ability to have google browser specific code on web
pages (nothing like opening the door for innovation). And I would
guess that Flash and some of the google products will be much more
integrated with the browser, allowing better/easier web application
development.
So, if it does take hold, we will have another browser to contend
with.
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Lars Eighner
In our last episode,
I expect they will do to the web what they did to Usenet:
try to take it proprietary.
the said:
I expect they will do to the web what they did to Usenet:
try to take it proprietary.
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Travis Newbury
I tend to agree with their philosophy. (Here is their philosophy if
you have not read it yet: http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/)
We use the web differently today than we did even a few years ago. It
is time for it to evolve. They want to be part of that evolution
(maybe even direct it a little). I am all for their innovations, and
the fact that everything they do is open source they want to share
their innovations with all the other browsers makers. Free code, free
innovation. But I am sure we will hear more than a fair share of
moaning and gnashing of teeth...
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Chris F.A. Johnson
Is the information in that page available somewhere in a
readable format?
D
dorayme
"Chris F.A. Johnson said:
I noticed that as I clicked the next button to turn the pages, it
skipped a page as often as not and I had to go back (I *had* to go back
because I love reading comics)
T
Travis Newbury
Probably. I do agree I would have liked to have seen it in a non comic
book format. It is almost insulting to anyone with a briain.
C
Chris F.A. Johnson
I had to increase the size to make it readable and therefore had
to scroll right, left, down, right, left, down, right, left, down
in order to read a page.
C
Chris F.A. Johnson
Ideally, they should have used text for text and images for
illustration.
D
dorayme
Travis Newbury said:
So *that* is why it so appealed to me.
D
dorayme
"Chris F.A. Johnson said:
Ideally, they should have floated the panels in div boxes, made the text
bigger, even used that SVG graphics...
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Adrienne Boswell
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Travis Newbury
I had problems finding it because of some javascript errors on the main
download page, and then found it at
[http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html].
True, it's in beta, but, for me, it will never replace Opera. I am too
fond of mouse gestures, and it only offered to import bookmarks from
Firefox and IE - everything I have is in Opera, and I don't think I'm
going to want to take the time to import them manually - besides, I love
Opera's ability to synch bookmarks across computers (I have a computer
at work, and one at home).
It seemed to be pretty fast, but it told me I had to download Adobe PDF
for reading a PDF document, even though I have Foxit Reader as my
default reader, and Adobe installed as well. It does not have a way to
tell it that you want certain file types not opened in a browser, for
example, PDF documents.
It's nice to know that it passed the Acid2 test. It seems to really
want a background image/color for the HTML element as well, and it
leaves a pretty big area white if that information is missing. Examples:
[http://cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/googlelive.jpg] (without HTML
element) and [http://cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/googlelocal.jpg]
(with HTML element). I also find it interesting that it defaults to
white, as my window background color is pale blue - not white.
The other thing I don't like the the fact that the domain name is bold,
while the document name is almost greyed out - this could be a real
issue for persons with low vision problems.
That's it for now... back to work.
I had problems finding it because of some javascript errors on the main
download page, and then found it at
[http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html].
True, it's in beta, but, for me, it will never replace Opera. I am too
fond of mouse gestures, and it only offered to import bookmarks from
Firefox and IE - everything I have is in Opera, and I don't think I'm
going to want to take the time to import them manually - besides, I love
Opera's ability to synch bookmarks across computers (I have a computer
at work, and one at home).
It seemed to be pretty fast, but it told me I had to download Adobe PDF
for reading a PDF document, even though I have Foxit Reader as my
default reader, and Adobe installed as well. It does not have a way to
tell it that you want certain file types not opened in a browser, for
example, PDF documents.
It's nice to know that it passed the Acid2 test. It seems to really
want a background image/color for the HTML element as well, and it
leaves a pretty big area white if that information is missing. Examples:
[http://cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/googlelive.jpg] (without HTML
element) and [http://cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/googlelocal.jpg]
(with HTML element). I also find it interesting that it defaults to
white, as my window background color is pale blue - not white.
The other thing I don't like the the fact that the domain name is bold,
while the document name is almost greyed out - this could be a real
issue for persons with low vision problems.
That's it for now... back to work.
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+mrcakey
This is great fun!
It's like marking teacher's homework.
Minus 20 points for being COMPLETELY inaccessible.
+mrcakey
It's like marking teacher's homework.
Minus 20 points for being COMPLETELY inaccessible.
+mrcakey
M
+mrcakey
Adrienne Boswell said:
IE8 was doing that in beta1 as well.
Opera does have an export bookmarks option if you really wanted. Not that
you're planning to migrate, but it would be there if you needed it.
+mrcakey
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201miles
For some unknown reason Google has never supported Opera
Regards, Kenneth.
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Travis Newbury
Jeeze what a bunch of whiny little kids. Every one of you could have
read it if you wanted to. You might have been slightly inconvenienced
for a few minutes, but you could have read it if you wanted to. So
those that know how to "not read it" can read it, and those that don't
know how to "not read it" can read it. The format worked for
everyone. A small groups may have been slightly inconvenienced for a
few minutes. So what.
Personally, I think it fails because it will turn away the audience
it is obviously geared for, that is a more technical crowd, who will
feel talked down to with the comic book format.
B
Bergamot
Adrienne said:
I wouldn't put all the blame on the browser for that. It should be a
setting in the plug-in app. I know the Adobe Reader has such a setting
and it works marvelously in gecko browsers. Chrome, however, decides to
automatically download a pdf instead. It should ask me what to do. Maybe
it will in the next beta version.
FYI, I get the same result on that page in Seamonkey. That space at the
top of the page is actually the top margin of the h1 element. It's
related to collapsing margins, not the HTML element.
Chrome isn't the only browser that doesn't use system settings or native
widgets. Windows Safari certainly doesn't, for anything. Gecko does for
some things, not for others. Opera doesn't for any form controls, at least.
That is indeed odd.
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Bergamot
Ben said:
I didn't think of it that way. It sort of makes sense, but I hope it
will be a feature the user can disable if they choose.