anyone can help?

[Rihana Liu]

Hi
One of my clients is concerned that his teenage son is up to no good,
been hanging out and talking to strange individuals and has been very
secretive about his dealings n Face book. Is there a way to monitor his
face book or get the password with a keyloger? Can somebody recommend
one I don’t want to just download anything and get my own PC hacked in
the process.
Thanks

 

[Phillip Gawlowski]

Hi
One of my clients is concerned that his teenage son is up to no good,
been hanging out and talking to strange individuals and has been very
secretive about his dealings n Face book. Is there a way to monitor his
face book or get the password with a keyloger? Can somebody recommend
one I don’t want to just download anything and get my own PC hacked in
the process.

Social problems cannot be solved with technology.

However, the security-basics ML is more appropriate for the
technological side of this problem:

http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/105

 

[David Masover]

Hi
One of my clients is concerned that his teenage son is up to no good,
been hanging out and talking to strange individuals and has been very
secretive about his dealings n Face book. Is there a way to monitor his
face book or get the password with a keyloger?
Yes.

Can somebody recommend
one

No.

This is the wrong approach. Start by talking to the kid. Yes, it's harder, =
but=20
if the kid finds out -- and he will -- how will he ever trust his parents=20
again?

I don=E2=80=99t want to just download anything and get my own PC hacked in
the process.

But you want to "hack" this teenager's. How noble of you.

That said, this is also incredibly offtopic. This mailing list is for peopl=
e=20
who want to talk about the Ruby programming language. I don't know of a sin=
gle=20
keylogger written in Ruby, nor can I imagine why anyone would choose Ruby f=
or=20
that task.

 

[Seebs]

This is the wrong approach. Start by talking to the kid. Yes, it's harder,
but if the kid finds out -- and he will -- how will he ever trust his
parents again?

Yeah.

I wrote a document once about "hiring a hacker" -- using the classic
pre-Hollywood sense. I get about an email a week from people who want me to
break into stuff for them. Many of them give me enough information that I
could probably get them in a great deal of trouble. This amuses me greatly.

But time and time again, the answer is "don't be such an idiot, just talk

That said, this is also incredibly offtopic. This mailing list is for people
who want to talk about the Ruby programming language.

The only topical part I can think of is that, in general, this would be one
of my first choices for places to go if I wanted to ask a question, with the
understanding that if I was trying to solve the wrong problem, people would
tell me that, too. Ruby seems to attract people who are not very interested
in solving the wrong problem.

-s

 

[Rihana Liu]

communication is in vain!so i need some tools to help me

 

[andrew mcelroy]

communication is in vain!so i need some tools to help me

If you are American be it known that if you install a key logger on
his computer (if over the age of 16) without his consent you are in
violation of various laws due to cyberstalking. Some of the laws are
Include but not limited to:

The USA Patriot Act
The Digital Millennium Act
5th Amendment of the US Constitution.
Illegal Wiretapping
50 USC 1809(a); 47 USC 605 and 18 USC 2511
any many more.
I am sure there is probably international law that this violates as well.

If he ends up accessing his medical records through a website then you
would be in violation of HIPPA.

Please for the last time, go somewhere else with this nonsense.
Be a responsible adult and talk to this kid. Why are you so scared to do so?

Respectfully,
Andrew McElroy

This message is not legal advise. Please consult a legal professional
before committing a potential federal felony.

 

[David Masover]

communication is in vain!so i need some tools to help me

I would suggest that the tools you need are psychological, not technical.
Again: It will be hard, but you really have no choice if you want to build a
relationship with anything resembling trust.

Let me say this again, because it's important: There is really no choice here.
If communication doesn't work, you're stuck. Technology is not a substitute.

Even if he never finds out, the parent will know, and if they're a good parent
at all, it will eat at their conscience. That's if the parent never finds
anything significant -- you would be violating the kid's privacy for nothing.

If the parent does find something significant, sooner or later, the kid will
find out, probably because the parent will confront the kid, but even if the
parent simply takes steps to prevent whatever they saw on the kid's facebook.
And this again brings it back to the problem of ever developing any sort of
trusting relationship with the kid, ever again.

Let me put it another way: You're suggesting the moral equivalent of reading
the kid's diary. Is that ever OK?

 

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

I would suggest that the tools you need are psychological, not
technical.

I totally agree. If communication is in vain, then take away the kid's
computer privileges.

Best,

 

[Maigecal Liu]

Hi
One of my clients is concerned that his teenage son is up to no good,
been hanging out and talking to strange individuals and has been very
secretive about his dealings n Face book. Is there a way to monitor his
face book or get the password with a keyloger? Can somebody recommend
one I don’t want to just download anything and get my own PC hacked in
the process.
Thanks

If you want protect your kids from internet,maybe you need site filter
software rather than keylogger.I serched on google and find this
software,you can try http://www.web-filter.cc/

 

[Marnen Laibow-Koser]

If you want protect your kids from internet,maybe you need site filter
software rather than keylogger.I serched on google and find this
software,you can try http://www.web-filter.cc/

Those things never work well. Technology is not the appropriate
solution here.

Best,

 

[David Masover]

=20
Those things never work well. Technology is not the appropriate
solution here.

Well, this one doesn't fit the original problem, as far as I can tell, unle=
ss=20
your goal is to simply block access to Facebook.

But it's worse than that -- by censoring something, you're only making it t=
hat=20
much more appealing.

I'll give an example: At the age of 12 or so, my father told me about The=20
Matrix, but refused to let me see it. When I was finally old enough, I watc=
hed=20
it on my birthday -- four times. I became obsessed with it -- much more so,=
I=20
think, than if I had been allowed to see it in the first place.

So, think about whatever it is you're trying to "protect" your kids from. I=
f=20
you simply tell them not to go there, and they really are good kids, maybe=
=20
they won't. If you put the filter in place, and they really are good kids,=
=20
you're telling them you don't trust them, which can be hurtful. If they=20
actually want to go there, they'll find a way around the filter anyway, but=
=20
the fact that you so desperately wanted to stop them is likely to backfire =
in=20
a big way once they do get through.