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Message: [QUOTE="Dan Pop, post: 2379209"] It was well deserved, not gratuitous. Whether you agree or not. There is also the presumption of innocence, that your reasoning is completely ignoring. The OP may know that ANSI and ISO are selling a printed copy and he is interested in knowing whether online copies are not available for free. As many other standards are *legally* available in electronic format for free, this is not *a priori* an unreasonable assumption. The answer happens to be no, but this doesn't make the OP a thief. Highly off topic rant follows, read it on your own risk. It's all too easy to judge the poor from the position of the rich. Try to spend some time in the shoes of the poor and you'll see that all your moral system falls apart. I'm talking from first hand experience, BTW, and not spewing PC bullshit: I've learned C from a photocopy of a photocopy of a ... of K&R1, so bad that it was barely readable (and I could keep it only for 2 weeks). And during this period I couldn't care less about IP theft and related issues: buying a copy of K&R1 was not an option and no public library in the whole country had the book. It was a choice between learning C and not learning C and I chose to learn C (even if, according to Joona, I was not entitled to it). The K&R1 publisher had nothing to win or to lose from my choice (eventually, it had something to win, because I bought K&R2, as soon as I had the opportunity to do it). And this was not an isolated example, this is how people learned CS, in my country, at the time. Today, the political constraints are gone, but the economical ones are still in place (average monthly salary on the order of $100), so people still learn CS this way, with a perfectly clean conscience. Talk to them about IP theft/copyright violation/whatever and they will laugh at you: these are abstractions they cannot afford. So, let the Indian regulars of this group judge the poor Indian student asking for a free copy of the C standards: they're the only ones in the right position for doing it. I clearly mentioned it, in my post. Dan [/QUOTE]

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