ASP.NET Configuration Tool

[Jonathan Wood]

Okay, I've been through this a couple of times now but it's still not coming
together.

I have an existing Website that I need to add ASP.NET membership
functionality to. So, after manually messing around with the Web.Config file
for a while, I finally got the ASP.NET Configuration Tool to stop
complaining about being able to connect to my data source.

But when I attempt to access the security tab, I get the error "Could not
find stored procedure 'dbo.aspnet_CheckSchemaVersion'."

I understand the reason for this error, but I thought the ASP.NET
Configuration Tool would initialize the database automatically. I know
there's a command-line utility for this but I'm sure I didn't need it
before.

Why isn't the ASP.NET Configuration Tool able to initialize membership in a
database. And, for that matter, why do I need to know how to manually find
and edit the connection strings every time I create a project. Does
Microsoft not consider this something the IDE should be making a little bit
more intuitive?

Thanks for any advice.

Jonathan

 

[sloan]

My personal opinion is that ...that tool is for hobbyists.
The biggest grudge is that it only works locally, and apparently sucks at
that as well.

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2005/08/25/423703.aspx

And I would "code up" a few pages. MSDN has 90% of the code done for you,
with adding users and such.

Writing my own backdoor pages (with security of course) saved me more time
than jerking around with that tool.

...

My opinion is one of a billion, so take it with a grain of salt.

Good luck.

 

[Jonathan Wood]

Well, it would be a lot of work to create all the tables, stored procedures,
etc. associated with ASP.NET membership. And, as I mentioned, I didn't have
to do that before as there is something that can generate them
automatically. So my opinions regarding the membership data objects is a
separate issue on using this tool in general.

As far as regular settings, which is what you seem to be mostly referring
to, my problem there is that VS now dumps tons of stuff in there. How could
I possibly be expected to remember what each of these settings does,
especially when I'm trying to learn C#, SQL, CSS, ASP.NET, HTML, Web
services, etc., etc? For these, it seems like some type of tool is
necessary.

BTW, I haven't tried it but was under the impression that the configuration
tool works not just for a local database. I'd be curious why you say it
doesn't handle that. Doesn't it just need the right connection string?

Thanks.

 

[sloan]

Did you follow the link I provided?

It shows how to setup a db on any server with a wizard.

 

[Jonathan Wood]

Yes I did, and I've got my current database working. Thanks.

But I'm still a bit frustrated by this process. For one thing, he says where
this utility is located, under the framework 2.0 subdirectories, where I
found it. But there is no such utility under the 3.0 or 3.5 subdirectories.
So you end up digging around for some utility that doesn't even appear to be
included with the latest version of VS. And having to first manually enter
the required web.config entries in order for the ASP.NEt configuration tool
to even start to work...

I don't know, it seems like it wouldn't have taken much effort to make this
a million times easier...

 

[Juan T. Llibre]

re:
!> For one thing, he says where this utility is located, under the framework 2.0
!> subdirectories, where I found it. But there is no such utility under the 3.0
!> or 3.5 subdirectories.

That's because there's no need for them there.
Both the 3.0 and 3.5 framework address the 2.0 CLR.

 

[Jonathan Wood]

Juan,

re:
!> For one thing, he says where this utility is located, under the
framework 2.0
!> subdirectories, where I found it. But there is no such utility under
the 3.0
!> or 3.5 subdirectories.

That's because there's no need for them there.
Both the 3.0 and 3.5 framework address the 2.0 CLR.

I don't know what this means. If I don't have the 2.0 framework installed,
and I don't have this utilitiy, then how am I supposed to initialize my
membership database?

Jonathan

 

[Juan T. Llibre]

re:
!> I don't know what this means.

You should know what it means.

re:
!> If I don't have the 2.0 framework installed, and I don't have this utilitiy,
!> then how am I supposed to initialize my membership database?

If you install the 3.0 or the 3.5 framework, that setup will install the 2.0 framework.
The basic fact is that the post-2.0 frameworks: 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5, all rely on the 2.0 CLR.

You initialize your membership database in the same way for 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5.

 

[sloan]

Unlike the jump from 1.1 to 2.0...

3.0 and 3.5 are more like "add-ons" to 2.0.

.............

The 2.0 one is the one you need.