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Message: [QUOTE="Merrill & Michele, post: 2386908"] I think the final word is that it's impossible in C because of things like worldview. ....snip... That's a little snippy. Sie wollen meine Weltanschauung nicht in Frage stellen. Well said. I guess when I threw in the towel with lambda calc and c I meant that I don't think that much is ever going to get done with it. As for c++, the lambda calc will only be discernable if you're cross-eyed. The word the germans like is "Verzerrung." The reason to develop along these lines will, IMO, go unrealized. MPJ [/QUOTE]