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Message: [QUOTE="Mark McIntyre, post: 2409362"] Yes they can. If you have evidence to the contrary, produce it. Your arguments remind me of politicans trying to sell us an idea that benefits only the state and security ser, by telling us it'll make us safer, richer or happier. Its snake oil, and no amount of grinning islingtonians will convince me otherwise. You are incorrect, and 25 years of empiricial evidence supports that suggestion. Yes. However in code, we don't fill each line with braces. If we did, it'd be easy as the eye is very good at spotting patterns of that kind. if (x>3) { {{{{ x +=5; } else { {{{{do{ {{{{{{{{for(i=3;i<12;i++){ {{{{{{{{{{{{x+=i; }}}}}}}} }}}} } :-) [/QUOTE]