Cross-browser functionality: how?

[DL]

What I mean is, I launch a Firefox (v3x) session from an IE7, how
could I trigger this FF session's event from IE7? For instance, I did
something after opening the Firefox windows and instead of adding a
button to this window, could I call this event from the current IE7
session? Is it even possible, if it can probably it would involve
activeX control and MS Shell and ????

Many thanks.

 

[Jeremy J Starcher]

What I mean is, I launch a Firefox (v3x) session from an IE7, how could
I trigger this FF session's event from IE7? For instance, I did
something after opening the Firefox windows and instead of adding a
button to this window, could I call this event from the current IE7
session? Is it even possible, if it can probably it would involve
activeX control and MS Shell and ????

Many thanks.

Within the standard realm of browsers, there is no easy or simple way to
do this. In /very/ limited situations, I could see using a client-side
pull/push to a central server (and possibly the use of plugins.)

For the life of me, I can't imagine a situation where such a feature
would be useful or desirable. Perhaps if you were able to explain the
end goal of what you wanted to do, someone might be able to present a
different approach.

 

[DL]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:25:56 -0800, DL wrote:
OP omiteed.

Within the standard realm of browsers, there is no easy or simple way to
do this.  In /very/ limited situations, I could see using a client-side
pull/push to a central server (and possibly the use of plugins.)

For the life of me, I can't imagine a situation where such a feature
would be useful or desirable.  Perhaps if you were able to explain the
end goal of what you wanted to do, someone might be able to present a
different approach.

Yes, the use scenario is like this, IE7 has been selected as the web
browser for a piece of software based on market share, however, IE7 or
its siblings does not support a critically important function, that
is, canvas while Firefox 2/3 does, hence, the need to launch a FF
session from IE for this purpose. For now, a user would have to save
work for the FF session, and save work for IE as well. Had I have a
way to trigger a call to the FF session from IE7 then it would be one
action call of saving data from IE7 alone, which improves useability.

Thanks.

 

[David Mark]

Yes, the use scenario is like this, IE7 has been selected as the web
browser for a piece of software based on market share, however, IE7 or
its siblings does not support a critically important function, that
is, canvas

And what sort of lunatic made that selection?

while Firefox 2/3 does, hence, the need to launch a FF
session from IE for this purpose.  For now, a user would have to save
work for the FF session, and save work for IE as well.  Had I have a
way to trigger a call to the FF session from IE7 then it would be one
action call of saving data from IE7 alone, which improves useability.

You won't have to worry about usability with this design (nobody will
use it.)

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[DL]

Yes, the use scenario is like this, IE7 has been selected as the web
browser for a piece of software based on market share, however, IE7 or
its siblings does not support a critically important function, that
is, canvas

And what sort of lunatic made that selection?

while Firefox 2/3 does, hence, the need to launch a FF
session from IE for this purpose.  For now, a user would have to save
work for the FF session, and save work for IE as well.  Had I have a
way to trigger a call to the FF session from IE7 then it would be one
action call of saving data from IE7 alone, which improves useability.

You won't have to worry about usability with this design (nobody will
use it.)

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Use it or not to use it, none of your freaking business! I didn't ask
that question.

 

[Jeremy J Starcher]

On Dec 20, 2:10 pm, Jeremy J Starcher <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, the use scenario is like this, IE7 has been selected as the web
browser for a piece of software based on market share, however, IE7 or
its siblings does not support a critically important function, that is,
canvas while Firefox 2/3 does, hence, the need to launch a FF session
from IE for this purpose. For now, a user would have to save work for
the FF session, and save work for IE as well. Had I have a way to
trigger a call to the FF session from IE7 then it would be one action
call of saving data from IE7 alone, which improves useability.

If you must use Canvas, may I recommend an entirely different approach:

http://me.eae.net/archive/2005/12/29/canvas-in-ie/

I don't know if it implements enough Canvas for your needs or not.

I can't imagine "John Q. Public" being willing to run two browsers, or
even use two browsers at all. For instance, outside of testing my own
web site, you'll not find me running IE at all. (My preferred OS doesn't
support IE.)

If you doing this for an intranet, then settle on one approach.

 

[David Mark]

And what sort of lunatic made that selection?

You won't have to worry about usability with this design (nobody will
use it.)

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Use it or not to use it, none of your freaking business!  I didn't ask
that question.

This is not a help desk and you got the best answer (get a new
design.) You stated that some madman decided that because IE is on
more desktops, it would make sense to design the app for IE. However,
your design requires *both* IE and FF, so the argument vanishes in a
puff of logic.

 

[DL]

If you must use Canvas, may I recommend an entirely different approach:

http://me.eae.net/archive/2005/12/29/canvas-in-ie/

I don't know if it implements enough Canvas for your needs or not.

I can't imagine "John Q. Public" being willing to run two browsers, or
even use two browsers at all.  For instance, outside of testing my own
web site, you'll not find me running IE at all.  (My preferred OS doesn't
support IE.)

If you doing this for an intranet, then settle on one approach.

That was Thursday, December 29th, 2005. Two years have passed, any
progress on that one? Also, the demo is still images, I was expecting
a canvas that one could try to draw something there. Yes, I've cross
across that URL before as well but I dropped it since it does not a)
provide an interface for drawing (canvas) even for demo b) no code
sample.

The software in question is mostly not for technical type, over 80%
users would be using IE7. Thanks for your time.

 

[DL]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:25:56 -0800, DL wrote:
OP omiteed.
Within the standard realm of browsers, there is no easy or simpleway to
do this.  In /very/ limited situations, I could see using a client-side
pull/push to a central server (and possibly the use of plugins.)
For the life of me, I can't imagine a situation where such a feature
would be useful or desirable.  Perhaps if you were able to explain the
end goal of what you wanted to do, someone might be able to present a
different approach.
Yes, the use scenario is like this, IE7 has been selected as the web
browser for a piece of software based on market share, however, IE7or
its siblings does not support a critically important function, that
is, canvas
And what sort of lunatic made that selection?
while Firefox 2/3 does, hence, the need to launch a FF
session from IE for this purpose.  For now, a user would have to save
work for the FF session, and save work for IE as well.  Had I have a
way to trigger a call to the FF session from IE7 then it would be one
action call of saving data from IE7 alone, which improves useability.
You won't have to worry about usability with this design (nobody will
use it.)
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Use it or not to use it, none of your freaking business!  I didn't ask
that question.

This is not a help desk and you got the best answer (get a new
design.)  You stated that some madman decided that because IE is on
more desktops, it would make sense to design the app for IE.  However,
your design requires *both* IE and FF, so the argument vanishes in a
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It sounds like a bait ... users actually like it