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Message: [QUOTE="tonytech08, post: 3697309"] Well if he was saying what I have been saying (judicious use), then why would he write anything? Apparently, he meant C++ is the tool, whereas I was suggesting that more than just that is required: rules, policies, standards for using (and even avoiding) the features of the language. Be careful with that though. Techies will be techies and do "neat" (but very tricky) things with the mechanisms. I think that a lot of programmers go to ever-increasing usage of "more advanced" features and never "come back to earth" by questioning or rethinking such usage. I still prefer that, even if no one did, though. (And one can extract implied preferences from what one writes without them being explicitly literal). Those who can invent, do. Those who can't... use templates! (hehe). ;) [/QUOTE]