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Message: [QUOTE="Noah Roberts, post: 3697592"] Good luck on that one. Colleges don't get into the advanced, or in many cases even the intermediate stuff. People just don't seem interested in instructing themselves on these things either. I pushed pretty hard to get reading and instruction material at my workplace. I'm the only one who reads the stuff. The only exception is when someone needs to know something and I just refer them to the book that would help them. Not saying I agree with your opposition on this, because I truly don't. Just sayin'...I've come to stop expecting too much. [/QUOTE]