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Message: [QUOTE="Thomas E Enebo, post: 4459380"] What Java bundles exist where you just download and start? Especially that does a fraction of what you are talking about. Many frameworks and tools exist in Java, but they all require research and I cannot think of a single-stop solution. Enterprise highly scalable stuff exists for java, but that stuff is never really simple software production. It also always seems to need plenty of plumbing. Your requirements seem more like an outline for a corporate white paper than a real-world use case for software development. At least with the amount of detail you have. Perhaps you could revise your research a little to collate and organize a list of ruby software that could be combined into a "dream" system (people have been trying to help you fill out such a list)? Maybe provide more concrete considerations why some of the technologies fall short? -Tom [/QUOTE]