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Message: [QUOTE="pete, post: 1698546"] James Kuyper wrote: The standard describes a conforming implementation in terms of it's behavior during the translation and execution of a C program. I had confused stream closing, with any situation which might cause a return value of EOF. But what I was getting at, was what Dan Pop is saying in other strands of this thread, that because streams are unreliable, a conforming implementation need only be able to produce the correct diagnostics during translation. A conforming implementation need not produce any output nor accept any input during the execution of a program. [/QUOTE]