Hello Steve,
If you input "IFrame and aspx" and searched in google.com, you could find many ideas on using IFrames in aspx pages.
You could refer to :
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=2022fcea.0308111741.7e39bca2%
40posting.google.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%
3DiFrame%2Baspx%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...-8&threadm=OejNUzDmBHA.2304@tkmsftngp02&rnum=
10&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3DiFrame%2Baspx%26sa%3DN%
26tab%3Dwg
Hope that helps.
Best regards,
Yanhong Huang
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!I was thinking of using iFrames, NOT Frames. I understand why one would need
!and benefit from user control and would work for my solution. My only
!concern is that I do not want to reload part of the page, that has already
!been loaded. The only data that will change is what would be contained in
!the iFrame, which for the most part is a datagrid. I think that this will
!offer a better and quicker user experiance. I usderstand the concept of
!resuability, using iframes or user controls are the same, but what one
!provides a tighter interface. Although User Controls allow you to reuse your
!controls, but you are still loading them for each page even though it is the
!same control. iFrames on the otherhand allow you reuse the same interface
!w/o additional download per page request.
!
!I cannot see any communication between frames other than loading another
!page into the iFrame, which is easy. I dont see this as an issue.
!
!If you can take a look at MS CRM, what those pages do is very similar to
!what I need my pages to do. I think if I follow that applications design, I
!should be good.
!
!Looking forward to your input and THANKS,
!
!Steve Wofford
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!!> Hello Steve,
!>
!> Sorry for the late response.
!>
!> You could refer to
!>
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!> some asp.net web control samples.
!>
!> Besides, I highly recommend you ditch the frames and replace them with
!user
!> controls.
!>
!> If you do not have that option, then you will be forced to use copious
!> amounts of javascript to allow the frames to communicate with each other
!> since ASP.NET does not directly support frames.
!>
!> The server cannot directly load a page into another frame. Only client
!> side code can do that. Luckily all hope is not lost. You can output the
!> needed client side code from your server code, and have the browser
!execute
!> the client side code.You can do that using the RegisterClientScriptBlock
!> method.
!>
!> Here's more info on that:
!>
!
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/cpref/html/
!> frlrfSystemWebUIPageClassRegisterStartupScriptTopic.asp
!>
!> Now the javascript you'll need to emit should look something like this:
!> parent.frames.frame2.location = 'somepage.aspx'
!>
!> Hope it helps.
!>
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!> !I have also been told I can use Web User Controls, but at this point I am
!> !lost...it seems like such simple concept.
!> !
!> !Thanks again,
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!> !!> !> Thanks again Yan-Hong,
!> !>
!> !> Sounds good, but I have the option to use iFrame, Frameset and old
!> !fashion
!> !> FRAM. What method would work using ASP.NET Menu.
!> !>
!> !> Thanks,
!> !>
!> !> Steve Wofford
!> !>
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!> !>
!> !> !> !> > Hello Steve,
!> !> >
!> !> > That is much clearer now.
I suggest you make menu in a frame and
!> !> datagrid in another frame. So the content of menu won't
!> !> > be refreshed and only the content of the datagrid need to post back
!to
!> !the
!> !> web server.
!> !> >
!> !> > ASP.NET menu control is OK for it. Thanks.
!> !> >
!> !> > Best regards,
!> !> > Yanhong Huang
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!> !> > !Thanks Yan-Hong,
!> !> > !
!> !> > !I have two primary pieces of my application that make the layout.
!> !> > !
!> !> > !- The menu - Although I have to build it differant based on the
!users
!> !> group
!> !> > !permissions(this is out of scope of my question). The menu stays the
!> !same
!> !> > !through out the session. I thought it may be best if I DO NOT load
!it
!> !> every
!> !> > !time for each web request and is why I was thing something similar
!to
!> !the
!> !> > !old FRAMES. It sounds like you might have been suggesting that I
!> reload
!> !> it
!> !> > !with each page request.
!> !> > !
!> !> > !- Content - this consists of datagrids and forms, plain stuff, but
!is
!> !> being
!> !> > !pulled from a db.
!> !> > !
!> !> > !What I need to know is.
!> !> > !
!> !> > !a. should I load the entire page and all. This includes menu items
!and
!> !> the
!> !> > !content that changes anyways.
!> !> > !
!> !> > !b. just load the content. Leaving the menu alone and avoid
!> !redownloading
!> !> it.
!> !> > !I plan on using ASP.NET Menu (
www.aspnetmenu.com) for this. If so do
!I
!> !> use
!> !> > !IFrame CSS or User Controls. I cannot seem to get a straight answer.
!> !> > !
!> !> > !Keep in mind this is an IntraNET application, no search engines and
!> !> everyone
!> !> > !will be using IE6.0. This application doesnt have the interface just
!> !yet,
!> !> > !and isnt that I am having issues, but rather want to build it right
!> the
!> !> > !first time.
!> !> > !
!> !> > !Thanks for your input,
!> !> > !
!> !> > !Steve Wofford
!> !> > !
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!> !> > !
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!> !> > !!> !> > !> Hello Steve,
!> !> > !>
!> !> > !> Web application has its limitations such as it need to be run in
!> !> browser,
!> !> > !it need to communicate with web server to show, and
!> !> > !> etc. For your question, I think the main concern is the
!performance
!> !of
!> !> > !aspx pages.
!> !> > !>
!> !> > !> For CSS, Frameset, I think they are all data presentation ways of
!> web
!> !> > !pages. If you want to use these formats to show static
!> !> > !> pages, it is OK and it doesn't need to communicate with web server
!> !when
!> !> > !clients are browsing them. However, if the page
!> !> > !> need user interaction, what we could think of is how to improve
!the
!> !> > !performance of it.
!> !> > !>
!> !> > !> ASP.NET provides many way to improve performance than typical,
!such
!> !as
!> !> > !caching. I suggest you read "Developing High-
!> !> > !> Performance ASP.NET Applications" in MSDN. It provides some
!> !frequently
!> !> > !used tips in developing high-performance
!> !> > !> asp.net applications.
!> !> > !>
!> !> >
!> !>
!>
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!> e
!> !> rformanceaspnetapplications.asp?
!> !> > !> frame=true
!> !> > !>
!> !> > !> Hope it helps.
!> !> > !>
!> !> > !> Best regards,
!> !> > !> Yanhong Huang
!> !> > !> Microsoft Online Partner Support
!> !> > !>
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!> !> > !> !Thanks. I am not worried about refresh, I can just give them a
!> !refresh
!> !> > !> !button to refresh the datagrid from the db. I am not really a web
!> !> > !designer,
!> !> > !> !but it looks like I need to use CSS. Remeber I just want to keep
!> !> content
!> !> > !> !updated not the menu, as there are round trips required to update
!a
!> !> menu
!> !> > !> !that never changes.
!> !> > !> !
!> !> > !> !Steve
!> !> > !> !
!> !> > !> !!> !> > !> !> IMHO, Web Interface for DataEntry is horrid, but that's my HO.
!> !> There's
!> !> > !> !> Javascript that can refresh just a single frame, or you can
!have
!> !the
!> !> > !page
!> !> > !> !> just refresh itself.
!> !> > !> !>
!> !> > !> !> HTH
!> !> > !> !> Tibby
!> !> > !> !> !> !> > !> !> > I am building an Intranet application and is more of an
!> !> "Application"
!> !> > !> !vs.
!> !> > !> !> a
!> !> > !> !> > typical "Web Application" or "Web Site". Using a FRAMSET
!seems
!> !> like
!> !> > !it
!> !> > !> !has
!> !> > !> !> > many benefits and gives mainly the feel of quicker access and
!a
!> !> more
!> !> > !> !> > streamlined application. However, am I sure you know of the
!> !> > !drawbacks,
!> !> > !> !for
!> !> > !> !> > instance F5 to refresh (which loads the default page), I know
!I
!> !> can
!> !> > !work
!> !> > !> !> > around this, but wanted to know what may suite me best in my
!> !> > !scenario. I
!> !> > !> !> > plan on using ASP.NET Menu for the menu interface.
!> !> > !> !> >
!> !> > !> !> > The user needs to quickly switch between pages like a local
!> !> > !application,
!> !> > !> !> or
!> !> > !> !> > at least quickly as possible. This is a data entry system,
!not
!> a
!> !> > !"cool
!> !> > !> !> > looking e-commerce site". Having the whole page reload for
!> every
!> !> page
!> !> > !> !can
!> !> > !> !> > take twice as long. The only graphical part of the
!application
!> !is
!> !> the
!> !> > !> !menu
!> !> > !> !> > and if I have to reload the menu for every page request.you
!> !could
!> !> > !> !imagine
!> !> > !> !> > how much time can be saved by using the same menu for all
!> pages.
!> !> > !> !> >
!> !> > !> !> > The reason I am looking at using ASP.Net Menu is the fact
!that
!> !> this
!> !> > !> !needs
!> !> > !> !> to
!> !> > !> !> > mimic more of the "Local Application" and the end users will
!be
!> !> using
!> !> > !> !this
!> !> > !> !> > 8+ hours a day, so the interface has to be clean. But I also
!> !need
!> !> to
!> !> > !> !> > minimize the response time due to the amount of usage per
!user.
!> !> There
!> !> > !> !> aren't
!> !> > !> !> > so many users, but this is the core application the company
!> will
!> !> be
!> !> > !> !> > utilizing.
!> !> > !> !> > I am looking for an opinion.
!> !> > !> !> > TIA,
!> !> > !> !> > Steve Wofford
!> !> > !> !> >
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