FreeRide experience? (especially on MacOS X)

J

Jamie Orchard-Hays

I'm curious about users' experiences with FreeRide, especially on MacOS
X.

Thanks,
Jamie
 
G

Glenn Parker

Jamie said:
I'm curious about users' experiences with FreeRide, especially on MacOS X.

I played with it for a couple of days (on WinXP). I'm afraid that, as a
neophyte Ruby coder, I found it frustrating. My utterly naive Ruby
syntax errors caused it to crash so frequently that I gave up on it and
went back to XEmacs. My feeling is it's not quite ready for prime-time.

Part of this may have resulted from deeper bugs in the Ruby interpreter,
or with irb, since I've experienced a few unforgiving crashes using
irb, as well. This was all using ruby 1.8.2 (2004-11-06) [i386-mswin32].

A follow-on question:

Does the current source tree for Ruby include test cases with "bad"
code? The idea would be to ensure that Ruby gracefully handles
syntactic and semantic errors.
 
C

Curt Hibbs

Glenn said:
I'm curious about users' experiences with FreeRide, especially
on MacOS X.

I played with it for a couple of days (on WinXP). I'm afraid that, as a
neophyte Ruby coder, I found it frustrating. My utterly naive Ruby
syntax errors caused it to crash so frequently that I gave up on it and
went back to XEmacs. My feeling is it's not quite ready for prime-time.

Part of this may have resulted from deeper bugs in the Ruby interpreter,
or with irb, since I've experienced a few unforgiving crashes using
irb, as well. This was all using ruby 1.8.2 (2004-11-06) [i386-mswin32].

If you don't mind, could you be more specific about what caused you
problems. I ask because I also run FreeRIDE on WinXP and have not had
frequent crashes that you report.

Whatever specific cases you have I would want to create bug reports and get
them fixed. This is especially important right now as we will be releasing
FreeRIDE 0.9.0 very soon and I would want any such problems to be fixed
before the release.

Also, what version of FreeRIDE were you running?

Curt
 
L

Laurent Julliard

Glenn said:
I played with it for a couple of days (on WinXP). I'm afraid that, as a
neophyte Ruby coder, I found it frustrating. My utterly naive Ruby
syntax errors caused it to crash so frequently that I gave up on it and
went back to XEmacs. My feeling is it's not quite ready for prime-time.

There happen to be a bug in 0.8.0 that caused FR to crash each time
you ran a script with a syntax error in it. This has been fixed and
will be 0.9.0 pretty soon.

Part of this may have resulted from deeper bugs in the Ruby interpreter,
or with irb, since I've experienced a few unforgiving crashes using
irb, as well. This was all using ruby 1.8.2 (2004-11-06) [i386-mswin32].

A follow-on question:

Does the current source tree for Ruby include test cases with "bad"
code? The idea would be to ensure that Ruby gracefully handles
syntactic and semantic errors.

No I think the bug was really in FreeRIDE.

Laurent
 
G

Gavin Sinclair

Part of this may have resulted from deeper bugs in the Ruby interpreter,
or with irb, since I've experienced a few unforgiving crashes using
irb, as well. This was all using ruby 1.8.2 (2004-11-06) [i386-mswin32].

irb "crashes" when code throws an exception that isn't caught. irb
catches some exceptions, not others. This is normal behaviour, not a
crash. It's still annoying, though.

Gavin
 

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