Google-groups indentation problem fixed!!!!

M

masood.iqbal

Yehoove!

The problems that have besetted Google-groups since their switch over
to the new system (which enables instantaneous posting and archival)
seem to have been largely fixed. The leading white spaces are no
longer being "eaten up". Don't believe it yet?
Here's the proof with TABS!
Hers's the proof with spaces!!

I would like to apologize for all my postings whose indentation was
mangled by Google-groups. Just as I was contemplating switching over
to a conventional news reader, they fixed their problem.

If they can get it right, conventional news readers may go the dinosaur
way!! Who needs a news reader if Google-groups gets it right? I
wonder why it took Google so long to "get it".

I think our signature campaign finally worked.

TRU-XTC
Masood
 
I

infobahn

If they can get it right, conventional news readers may go the dinosaur
way!!
Unlikely.

Who needs a news reader if Google-groups gets it right?

People who don't post or read through Google-groups. Usenet will still
be here when Google is ancient history. Remember Deja?
 
C

CBFalconer

infobahn said:
People who don't post or read through Google-groups. Usenet will
still be here when Google is ancient history. Remember Deja?

And all those who want to operate offline, etc. etc.

If they have fixed the indentation, have they fixed the quoting and
attribution? Can I retire this sig?
 
C

cbfalconer

This is a reply using the entry at the bottom of the message. No quote
or attributions show up during entry. Not good.
 
C

cbfalconer

CBFalconer said:
.... snip ...

If they have fixed the indentation, have they fixed the quoting and
attribution? Can I retire this sig?

--
"If you want to post a followup via groups.google.com, don't use
the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on
"show options" at the top of the article, then click on the
"Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson

And this is the result using the show options etc. However the most
obvious reply mechanism is still broken, and I will see how this one
handles long lines. I suspect it doesn't wrap properly at 65 to 72.
 
J

Jack Klein

People who don't post or read through Google-groups. Usenet will still
be here when Google is ancient history. Remember Deja?

Yes, I remember Deja. It's alive and more or less well since Google
bought them out and renamed them Google groups.
 
I

Ioannis Vranos

This is a reply using the entry at the bottom of the message. No quote
or attributions show up during entry. Not good.


I suggest you have a look at Mozilla Thunderbird:


http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird




You have not seen such an email client and newsreader before. Trust me.


It is a *clean* install/uninstall, and you can test it without affecting
your current newsgroup installations. But I tell you I haven't seen such
a great thing before.
 
M

Matthias

Who needs a news reader if Google-groups gets it right?

Wrong. Who needs Google Groups if your mail client is also a newsreader.
And Thunderbird has a pretty darn good one. Possibly way better every
web interface can ever be.
 
N

Nimmi Srivastav

Ioannis said:
I suggest you have a look at Mozilla Thunderbird:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird


You have not seen such an email client and newsreader before. Trust me.

I haven't used Mozilla Thunderbird but I have heard good things about
it. Does Thunderbird support posting articles to Usenet using an HTTP
post operation (the way Google Groups does)?

--Nimmi
 
C

CBFalconer

Ioannis said:
I suggest you have a look at Mozilla Thunderbird:

Imbecelic response. The subject is the possible fixing of Google,
and my entry was a test of that. They failed. So they will
continue to plague usenet by enticing foolish quote lacking
responses, unless the advice in my sig is taken.
 
J

John Smith

CBFalconer said:
Imbecelic response. The subject is the possible fixing of Google,
and my entry was a test of that. They failed. So they will
continue to plague usenet by enticing foolish quote lacking
responses, unless the advice in my sig is taken.
CB, you are fast becoming the Grumpy Old Man of c.l.c. Move over Dan Pop.

JS
 
R

Richard Bos

Ioannis Vranos said:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird

You have not seen such an email client and newsreader before. Trust me.

Oh, yes I have.
It is a *clean* install/uninstall, and you can test it without affecting
your current newsgroup installations. But I tell you I haven't seen such
a great thing before.

I have. Pegasus for mail and Free Agent for news are more to my taste.
Thunderbird is... good enough. Unlike some. But I found it
unspectacularly sufficient.

Richard
 
H

Howard

Yehoove!

The problems that have besetted Google-groups since their switch over
to the new system (which enables instantaneous posting and archival)
seem to have been largely fixed. The leading white spaces are no
longer being "eaten up". Don't believe it yet?
Here's the proof with TABS!


I suppose it could be my newsreader (Outlook Express) that's doing it, but
the leading tab(s) are certainly missing when I read that line above! :-(
-H
 
D

Default User

Richard said:
I have. Pegasus for mail and Free Agent for news are more to my taste.
Thunderbird is... good enough. Unlike some. But I found it
unspectacularly sufficient.


When our news service is WORKING (grumble grumble) I use XanaNews. Due
to a signficant increase in cross-posting trolls in certain groups, I
needed more powerful filtering. As far as I recall, Mozilla like its
Netscape predecessor, can really only filter by Sender or Subject. I
needed to be able weed out ones cross-posted to certain groups.

XanaNews does a decent job, it's not as powerful as Xnews/slrn, but it
can filter by header and that's good enough.

Google is still a terrible way to read news, even if posting has
improved slightly. The still need to fix the quote thing if they want
to move off the "pariah of usenet" position. AOL gave up.



Brian
 
C

CBFalconer

John said:
CB, you are fast becoming the Grumpy Old Man of c.l.c. Move over
Dan Pop.

Here, I think, with good reason. Look what he has done to the
thread with his totally OT response. It was about protecting
Usenet from google groups. Now there has been a plethora of
responses from all the crossposted groups, and it will take some
stamping out. He made things even worse by dumping a binary
screen-shot into all the cross-posted groups. Grrr.
 
R

Richard Bos

CBFalconer said:
Now there has been a plethora of
responses from all the crossposted groups, and it will take some
stamping out. He made things even worse by dumping a binary
screen-shot into all the cross-posted groups. Grrr.

Get a real news server ;-). I never saw any binaries...

Richard
 
R

Richard Bos

Default User said:
Google is still a terrible way to read news, even if posting has
improved slightly. The still need to fix the quote thing if they want
to move off the "pariah of usenet" position. AOL gave up.

I don't think AOL gave up - rather, they saw what Google Broken Beta was
doing to Usenet, recognised that their job had been done and their
proper successor had arrived, and sang a digital "Nunc dimittis".

Richard
 
D

Default User

Richard said:
I don't think AOL gave up - rather, they saw what Google Broken Beta was
doing to Usenet, recognised that their job had been done and their
proper successor had arrived, and sang a digital "Nunc dimittis".

It's a double whammy now. Many of the old AOLers are switching to
Grouple from lack of other means to get their one-liners out to the
waiting (and twitching) public.


Brian
 

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