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Message: [QUOTE="rantingrick, post: 4085302"] Ok, so i was a bit miffed about the docs bug and felt the need to vent. Don't tell me you've never griped about anything. ;-) Honestly nothing so far (in the form of code) as it is beyond my skill set at this time, but not much beyond it! Up to this point i have contributed by answering questions on this list and other Python lists. However, i do plan to be a driving force in this community for a very long time to come. I am not here to spout off empty promises and produce no results, i will back them up with code soon enough. Anyone who has followed me over the past few years should know that while i can be at times theatrical, slightly narcissistic, and occasionally belligerent. I am always concerned with moving Python into a better future. I can see myself releasing "Python Modules" and contributing to bug fixes on the "non-core" side of Python in the very near future. I would very much like to be a part of this GUI fix/replacement as it would be a great learning experience. As for the core, i would love to contribute if and when my skills reach that level. But my concern at this point is to contribute where i can. Updating Python's stdlib in a way that will benefit everyone (including myself). And the first step is calling for peoples input. It would be both selfish and unwise for a person to create a module and expect it to be blindly adopted without considering the many other people who belong to this community. This is a community and we need to include as many as we can into the decision process. For the best results one must get supporting and opposing opinions. From that dataset we can put our collective heads together to formulate a solution and finally produce that solution. I will be a part of this solution. I hope you will join in whatever capacity your free time will allow. Even a vote of confidence is a huge step in the right direction. I think you'll agree that Tkinter "as-is" just ain't cutting it. One thing "we" as a community need to do more often is combine our individual strengths into a collective strength that can be harnessed to achieve some long since forgotten goals. Guido has forged the path, we must strive to improve python daily lest his and all your hard work be all for naught. Mark, with those odds you can safely bet on me producing code!! ;-) [/QUOTE]

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