Haskell's new logo, and the idiocy of tech geekers

[Xah Lee]

Haskell has a new logo. A fantastic one. Beautiful. For creator,
context, detail, see bottom of:

• A Lambda Logo Tour
http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/lambda_logo.html

this is posted here because it relates to various computer software/
language's logo, a subject discussed by me several times in the past
years in comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.scheme, comp.lang.python, as well
discussed now and then in these communities often without my
involvement.

for my criticism or comment on logos, typical response by these people
are showcases of complete ignorance of social function of logos, and a
complete iliteracy in visual design (that any art student learns in
first year), usually coupled with a teen-age militant attitude.
(usually, these tech geeker's mentality is like: “you are a fucking
idiot... we don't need a logo. Logos are for kids and blood-sucking
marketers.â€)

Some of these tech geekers, are motherfucking aggresive, so that they
would ban me, or call me as a troll, or call upon whatever rules to
oust me (such as “off topicalityâ€) , for any criticism on them. (if
requested, i'll take some time to cite the exact url for numerous of
these threads that happened in the past 5 years. My frustration in
discussion logos happened in python, lojban, lisp communities. Note:
not all people in these communities are idiotic about logos.
Typically, it's just few of priest fuckheads (e.g. a newsgroup
regular, or somewhat significant contributor of the particular
community). This particularly happened in several threads in the
lojban community where i criticized its logo during mid 2000s. (have a
look at lojban's motherfucking idiotic logo here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban
))

• The Purpose of Logos and Principles of Logo Design
http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/logo_design.html

• Lisp Needs A Logo
http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/logo_lisp.html

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computer language and software logo gallery:

• The Unix Pestilence
http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/freebooks.html

• A Lambda Logo Tour
http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/lambda_logo.html

• LISP Logo
http://xahlee.org/emacs/lisp_logo.html

• Qi Language Logo
http://xahlee.org/emacs/qi_logo.html

• Haskell Logo
http://xahlee.org/haskell/haskell-logo.html

• The Emacs Logo
http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_logo.html

• Xah's Java Logo
http://xahlee.org/java-a-day/java_logo.html

Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

 

[Kenneth Tilton]

Haskell has a new logo. A fantastic one. Beautiful. For creator,
context, detail, see bottom of:

• A Lambda Logo Tour
http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/lambda_logo.html

Cool survey, and yes, that is a nice new one for Haskell.

I saw beauty the other day changing an application to talk to RDF for
what it used to get from CLOS and seeing it Just Work after a couple of
hours of poking around.

Connecting those two paragraphs left as an exercise.

kt

 

[Pascal J. Bourguignon]

Don't do that!
If you want to watch the logo, just google for haskell logo.
There's no need to go thru xahlee.org.

 

[Kenneth Tilton]

Don't do that!
If you want to watch the logo, just google for haskell logo.
There's no need to go thru xahlee.org.

Hunh? He has done a nice job of collecting different logos and putting
them all in one place where one can see them all just by scrolling. ie,
it's a cool web page with added value available nowhere else.

kt

 

[Robert H]

http://blog.plover.com/prog/haskell/logo.html

Oops...

 

[Dave Searles]

Haskell has a new logo. [Blam! It fucking blows because lambda means
pure functional]

A truly pure functional language would be useless for anything but
programming space heaters.

Lambda seems not inappropriate on any language that strongly supports a
functional style. Schemes and Clojure certainly do, and Haskell
certainly does. Common Lisp is a bit less strongly
functionally-oriented, but it still supports it better than, say, C or
Java, by having first-class functions and closures.

In fact the general pattern seems to be that lambda crops up in
languages that have first-class functions, which not coincidentally tend
to also have an anonymous function operator, often called lambda.

 

[Chris Withers]

Haskell has a new logo. A fantastic one. Beautiful. For creator,
context, detail, see bottom of:

What does this have to do with Python? Nothing.
So why are you posting it to comp.lang.python?

Chris

 

[Jack Diederich]

It's Xah Lee, he's been trolling this and every other programing
language group for over 10 years (preferably all at once). Let it go.

 

[Tim Rowe]

for my criticism or comment on logos, typical response by these people
are showcases of complete ignorance of social function of logos

[snip and rearrange]

discussed now and then in these communities often without my
involvement.

“you are a fucking idiot...

motherfucking aggresive

it's just few of priest fuckheads

look at lojban's motherfucking idiotic logo

If you really knew anything about social function you would be able to
work out why people think you are a troll.

 

[Nick Keighley]

Haskell has a new logo. A fantastic one. Beautiful. For creator,
context, detail, see bottom of:

• A Lambda Logo Tour
 http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/lambda_logo.html

I'm amazed he thinks anyone would donate 3 USD
to that site

 

[Michel Alexandre Salim]

Haskell has a new logo. A fantastic one. Beautiful. For creator,
context, detail, see bottom of:

• A Lambda Logo Tour
 http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/lambda_logo.html

Interesting.. rant. Thanks for the logo collection, though, some of
them are visually quite breathtaking.

Q1: if you argue that Lisp and Scheme implementations are not purely
functional enough to merit the use of the lambda character, then
surely you'd be happy with the new Chicken logos, as the stylized
representation is less obvious?

Q2: if you preach about the sanctity of Greek characters, then what
does your use of the sigma character mean -- that your site is a
summation of all knowledge?

Regards,

 

[Chris Withers]

It's Xah Lee, he's been trolling this and every other programing
language group for over 10 years (preferably all at once). Let it go.

I don't suppose there's any chance of just blocking the idiot, is there?

Chris