[HIBERNATE] [EVALUATION] - Gavin King Censors Hibernate Forum

[Ilias Lazaridis]

followup-to: comp.lang.java.softwaretools

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nntp access to hibernate devel group:

news://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.hibernate.devel

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At first, I ask about an nntp user forum.

See the arrogant reaction of the team, which ignores user needs (this
topic was discussed in the past, too):

[Hibernate] [PROJECT] - Missing nntp user forum
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04161.html

Subthread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04200.html

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Next I evaluate against the fictive product jamStore:

See again with which arrogance the team rejects my offer to work
together towards the direction to produce some quickstarts as described
on the jamStore page [which would allow a 1h quick-start]:

[PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against Fictive jamStore
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04180.html

Subthread:

SV: [Hibernate] Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against
Fictive jamStore

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See how simple Mr. Gavin King (JBoss) removes a granted right (to post
on the devel forum):

[Hibernate] FYI
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04208.html

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My response in another thread:

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To Gavin King:
Removing a person [which writes fully in topic] from a mailinglist is
censorship.
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04208.html
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This here is not your personal playground.
I ask you friendly to stop removing me from the list.
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source:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg04209.html

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The response: A personal Censorship Attack against my person:

"
Your mail to 'hibernate-devel' with the subject

Re: SV: Re: [PRODUCT] ORM + RDBMS = OODBMS / Evaluation Against
Fictive
jamStore

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Sender is explicitly forbidden

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.
"

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A weak team lead like Gavin King (Jboss, Hibernate Lead developer) in
conjunction with a team which ignores
* user needs
* user experience
* users effort
cannot produce the next generation software systems.

Evaluation aborted.

[will continue it if i cannot find another solution]

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