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Message: [QUOTE="Michael Mol, post: 3825104"] If by "learn to program" you mean "able to instruct a computer to do a few simple tasks programmatically", and by "become a programmer" you mean "become proficient at programming", then, yes, there are many people who learn to program without becoming programmers. I spent five years tutoring computer courses at the community college level, including BASIC, Java, C++, PHP and VB.Net. I've seen many students learn to get programs as complicated as a bank account simulator (A simple program that uses a class with a balance property, a getter for said property, and methods for increasing and decreasing said property), but not really have a clue (or care) what they were doing, how they were doing it, or what they could do with it. Most of them were only taking a programming class because they were trying to get a degree in business management, and the curriculum required them to take a programming course. Is this typical at four-year and higher learning institutions? I don't know. Is it typical for self-learners on the Internet? Again, I don't know. But, yes, there are many people who learn how to make a syntactically valid and functional program in C++ without becoming what I would call a programmer. (And my definition is lax; If you actually care about what you're doing, you'll eventually become proficient.) [/QUOTE]