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Message: [QUOTE="Tad McClellan, post: 4817893"] No it doesn't. A "numeral" is not the same as a "number", just as a "letter" is not the same as a "word". No, it shows that hex _numeral_ is OK. And note that NONE of the OP's code in this thread is using a base 16 numeral system. hara> @result=1101 base 10. hara> $res=00000000001000000000000000000000 hara> $res=00200000 base 8. So, we are all flailing around trying to help this person and we don't even know if he wants to manipulate bits (a number) or manipulate characters (the representation of a number). It would be nice if hara would tell us which one it is so that we can flail in new directions... [/QUOTE]