ie5 and css

H

hi

i recently started incorporating css into my web design. the page works
find in mozilla firefox but not in ie5. can you help? attached are the
pages in question. this site also uses lbi files

here is the css:


<!--

body {
font: 10pt/16pt arial;
color: #000000;

margin: 0px;
}
p {
font: 10pt/16pt georgia;
margin-top: 0px;
text-align: justify;
}
h3 {
font: bold normal 12pt arial;
letter-spacing: 1px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
color: #000000;
}
a:link {
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: none;
color: #0000CC;
}
a:visited {
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: none;
color: #CC3333;
}
a:hover, a:active {
text-decoration: underline;
color: #CC3333;
}
img {float: left;
margin-right: 30px;}

..style3 {font-size: 24pt}
..style4 {color: #000099}
..style5 {color: #FFFFFF}
-->


and here is the html

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="global.css">
</head>

<body>
<table width="100%" border="0">
<tr>
<td colspan="5"><!-- #BeginLibraryItem "/Library/bannerimage.lbi" -->


<style type="text/css">
<!--
a:link {
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: none;
color: #FFFFFF;
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
a:visited {
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: none;
color: #FF0000;
}
a:hover, a:active {
text-decoration: underline;
color: #FF0000;
</style>

<table width="100%" border="0" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<tr>
<td width="26%"><div align="right"><img
src="images/companylogo.png" width="195" height="111"></div></td>
<td valign="bottom"><table width="100%" border="0"
align="left" bgcolor="#000066">
<tr>
<td><a
href="file:///C|/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/Local%20Settings/Temp/javascript;"><span
class="style7">Link 1</span></a></td>
<td><a
href="file:///C|/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/Local%20Settings/Temp/javascript;"><span
class="style7">Link 1</span></a></td>
<td><a
href="file:///C|/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/Local%20Settings/Temp/javascript;"><span
class="style7">Link 1</span></a></td>
<td><a
href="file:///C|/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/Local%20Settings/Temp/javascript;"><span
class="style7">Link 1</span></a></td>
<td><a
href="file:///C|/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator/Local%20Settings/Temp/javascript;"><span
class="style7">Link 1</span></a></td>
<td colspan="5">&nbsp;</td>
<td colspan="3">&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
</table></td>
</tr>
<tr valign="bottom">
<td height="23" colspan="2"><table width="100%" border="0">
<tr>
<td height="41" valign="bottom"
background="images/stars.png"><div align="right"></div>
<h3 align="right">&nbsp;</h3></td>
</tr>
</table>
<hr align="right" width="100%"></td>
<td width="18%" height="23">&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- #EndLibraryItem --><!-- #EndLibraryItem --><!--
#EndLibraryItem --><!-- #EndLibraryItem --><!-- #EndLibraryItem --></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="13%" height="470" valign="top" bgcolor="#000066"><!--
#BeginLibraryItem "/Library/leftlinks.lbi" -->
<style type="text/css">
<!--
a:link {
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: none;
color: #FFFFFF;
font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
a:visited {
font-weight: bold;
text-decoration: none;
color: #FF0000;
}
a:hover, a:active {
text-decoration: underline;
color: #FF0000;
</style>

<table width="125" border="0" bgcolor="#000066" valign="top">
<tr>
<td width="148" valign="top"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;">Superior Recovery Services Home </a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;">Link 1 </a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;">Link 1 </a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;">Link 1 </a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;">Link 1 </a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;">Link 1 </a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;">Link 1 </a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- #EndLibraryItem --></td>
<td colspan="4" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0">
<tr>
<td colspan="4" rowspan="7" valign="top" bgcolor="#CC3333"><p
class="style3">We do More Stuff Than You </p>
<p class="style3">can PossiblyImagine. It's like </p>
<p class="style3">we are psychic or something </p>
<p class="style3">in the way we track these </p>
<p class="style3">trucks down. We make people </p>
<p class="style3">pay </p></td>
<td width="32%">&nbsp;</td>
<td width="16%">&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td rowspan="4" align="center"><div align="center">
Picture of a truck or something here </div>
</div>
</div></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><div align="center">Picture of a truck or something here
</div></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2">&nbsp;</td>
<td colspan="2">&nbsp;</td>
<td rowspan="5"><div align="center"></div></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="#000066"><span class="style5">Some
Really Big News </span></td>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="#000066"><span class="style4"><span
class="style5">Some Really Big News </span></span></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="4" valign="top"
bgcolor="#CC9933"><p>Hey, check this out. Look at all these neat colors.
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<p><a href="javascript;">lkdfj;kdjf;akdjf;djf;af </a></p></td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="4" valign="top"
bgcolor="#CC9933"><p>Hey, check this out. Look at all these neat colors.
kdjf;alkfj;akdfja.Elkf;a. Eljf;ldkjfa;ikdjf;akdjf;akdjf;aj;kdlc</p>
<p><a href="javascript;">lkdfj;kdjf;akdjf;djf;af </a></p></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="1%">&nbsp;</td>
<td width="24%">&nbsp;</td>
<td width="4%">&nbsp;</td>
<td width="23%">&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="#000066"><span class="style4"><span
class="style5">Some Really Big News </span></span></td>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="#000066"><span class="style4"><span
class="style5">Some Really Big News </span></span></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="3" valign="top"
bgcolor="#CC9933"><p>Hey, check this out. Look at all these neat colors.
kdjf;alkfj;akdfja.Elkf;a. Eljf;ldkjfa;ikdjf;akdjf;akdjf;aj;kdlc</p>
<p><a href="javascript;">lkdfj;kdjf;akdjf;djf;af </a></p></td>
<td colspan="2" rowspan="3" valign="top"
bgcolor="#CC9933"><p>Hey, check this out. Look at all these neat colors.
kdjf;alkfj;akdfja.Elkf;a. Eljf;ldkjfa;ikdjf;akdjf;akdjf;aj;kdlc</p>
<p><a href="javascript;">lkdfj;kdjf;akdjf;djf;af </a></p></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
</table> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="5"><!-- #BeginLibraryItem "/Library/footer.lbi" -->

<center><table width="41%" border="0">
<tr>
<td width="18%"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;"><font color="#000066">Link
1</font></a></div></td>
<td width="19%"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;"><font color="#000066">Link
1</font></a></div></td>
<td width="19%"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;"><font color="#000066">Link
1</font></a></div></td>
<td width="21%"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;"><font color="#000066">Link 1</font>
</a></div></td>
<td width="23%"><div align="center"><a
href="Library/javascript;"><font color="#000066">Link
1</font></a></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="5"><div align="center"><strong>©2004 Superior Recovery
Services Inc.</strong></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="5"><div align="center"></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="5"></td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
<!-- #EndLibraryItem --></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td width="28%">&nbsp;</td>
<td width="53%">&nbsp;</td>
<td width="1%">&nbsp;</td>
<td width="5%">&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
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<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</body>
</html>
 
B

brucie

In alt.html hi said:
ie5. can you help?

getting close to 6 years old. what a waste of time.
attached are the pages in question.

and now you expect me to waste my time reconstructing your pages instead
of simply supplying a URL.

goodbye
 
K

Karl Core

hi said:
i recently started incorporating css into my web design. the page works
find in mozilla firefox but not in ie5. can you help? attached are the
pages in question. this site also uses lbi files

here is the css:

and here is the html

<snip horrible markup created with Dreamweaver>

http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you

What percentage of your users are accessing the site with IE5?
I've seen as low as 7% and as high as 13%. Yours could be even lower or even
higher. If you're not getting many visits from IE5, don't make your decision
to support IE5 based on only a handful of people

-Karl
 
N

Neal

i recently started incorporating css into my web design. the page works
find in mozilla firefox but not in ie5. can you help? attached are the
pages in question. this site also uses lbi files

here is the css:

Anything this big should be uploaded and a URL should be posted.

My general rule-of-thumb - I don't support any version of a browser before
the most recent, if it is more than 5 years old.

IE5 is ancient. Get over it. Get it running on IE6, you're OK.

If I had a URL I'd look at it in other more modern browsers too, but there
ain't one, and I'm not going through the trouble of making a web page out
of your raw code.
 
R

rf

Neal wrote
If I had a URL I'd look at it in other more modern browsers too, but there
ain't one, and I'm not going through the trouble of making a web page out
of your raw code.

Not to mention that we have *none* of the images :)
 
C

C A Upsdell

hi said:
i recently started incorporating css into my web design. the page works
find in mozilla firefox but not in ie5. can you help? attached are the
pages in question. this site also uses lbi files

It is important to note that IE5.5 implements CSS much better than IE5.01,
and that approximately the same number of people use IE5.01 as use IE5.5.
You really should consider IE5 to be TWO different versions, and test with
both.
 
C

C A Upsdell

Neal said:
Anything this big should be uploaded and a URL should be posted.

My general rule-of-thumb - I don't support any version of a browser before
the most recent, if it is more than 5 years old.

IE5 is ancient. Get over it. Get it running on IE6, you're OK.

IE5 is still used by about 10% of users. If you don't support them, you
lose about 10% of your visitors.

So please, don't support your IE5 visitors: send them on to my clients'
sites.
 

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