isp address

T

Toby A Inkster

ross said:
Is there a way to discover information about isp addresses ? Thank you,

Do you mean the physical addresses of ISPs?

One way would be to find their IP addresses using a DNS lookup engine.
e.g. <http://www.bankes.com/nslookup.htm>. For example,
www.freeserve.co.uk's IP address is 195.92.249.133

Then we can look up that IP address in the RIPE database (RIPE covers
Europe and Asia, but there are similar IP registries for other parts of
the world)

http://www.ripe.net/db/whois/whois.html

This tells us that freeserve's address is:

Melbourne Street
Leeds, LS2 7PS
United Kingdom
 
R

Richard

Toby A Inkster wrote:>>
ross wrote:
Do you mean the physical addresses of ISPs?
One way would be to find their IP addresses using a DNS lookup engine.
e.g. <http://www.bankes.com/nslookup.htm>. For example,
www.freeserve.co.uk's IP address is 195.92.249.133
Then we can look up that IP address in the RIPE database (RIPE covers
Europe and Asia, but there are similar IP registries for other parts of
the world)

This tells us that freeserve's address is:
Melbourne Street
Leeds, LS2 7PS
United Kingdom

In all fairness, it actually tells us what the registered owner wants us to
know.
It may or may not be the true address of the business, freeserve in this
case.
It could just as easily be a mail drop.

A domain information might show:
John Smith
1313 mockingbird Ln.
Chicago, Il, USA. 60605

Kloo: The address is that of "the munsters" tv show house.
Or was it "the adams family"? Oh well.

You can't rely on whois information for being truthful.
 
R

ross

I appreciate your answer to my query. I am looking for information about the
viewers to my web site. I get a list everyday about who is visiting and I
would like to see their geological location. I don't seem to be getting that
info from the responeses. I there another way to go for this? By the way, I
am in the United
States. Thanks again, Dick Ross www.rosmd.com
Toby A Inkster wrote:>>
ross wrote:
Do you mean the physical addresses of ISPs?
One way would be to find their IP addresses using a DNS lookup engine.
e.g. <http://www.bankes.com/nslookup.htm>. For example,
www.freeserve.co.uk's IP address is 195.92.249.133
Then we can look up that IP address in the RIPE database (RIPE covers
Europe and Asia, but there are similar IP registries for other parts of
the world)

This tells us that freeserve's address is:
Melbourne Street
Leeds, LS2 7PS
United Kingdom

In all fairness, it actually tells us what the registered owner wants us to
know.
It may or may not be the true address of the business, freeserve in this
case.
It could just as easily be a mail drop.

A domain information might show:
John Smith
1313 mockingbird Ln.
Chicago, Il, USA. 60605

Kloo: The address is that of "the munsters" tv show house.
Or was it "the adams family"? Oh well.

You can't rely on whois information for being truthful.
 
A

Adrienne

1313 mockingbird Ln.
Chicago, Il, USA. 60605

Kloo: The address is that of "the munsters" tv show house.
Or was it "the adams family"? Oh well.

The Munsters. IIRC the Adams Family had to address.
 
B

brucie

http://www.geobytes.com/GeoReport.htm
- A report informing webmasters where in the world site traffic comes from.

interesting, http://www.geobytes.com/iplocator.htm seems to think i'm
located in bilbao, spain. its a cute little gimmick but has the
potential to screw up badly. for example if used for something like
determining language to use. would a purchase be declined because my
IP didn't match my shipping address? the fix is simple - spend my
money with someone else.
 
M

Mark Parnell

Sometime around Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:06:45 +1000, brucie is reported to have
stated:
interesting, http://www.geobytes.com/iplocator.htm seems to think i'm
located in bilbao, spain.

LOL

What IP address does it pick up? When I put in the one from your post it
gets it right. You must be using some strange proxy or something?

Still, it obviously isn't accurate, whatever the cause. :)
 
B

brucie


its not F#&$ing funny. i'm confused enough as it is.
What IP address does it pick up?

http://usenet.alt-html.org/ip01.jpg [39k] from this address:
www.keylantracker.com/tracear_ip.php but my IP is constantly changing,
next time i may be in peru. its just like a holiday but not as good.
When I put in the one from your post it gets it right.

it gets australia right but the IP is nowhere near my physical
location.
You must be using some strange proxy or something?

to cut a long story short the oz government has decided that 19.2k is
the minimum acceptable internet connection speed for anyone located
anywhere in australia (part of their "rural improvements" so they can
try again to sell telstra). my connection was 14.4k. telstra have done
their magic and reroute my connection in all sorts of different
directions which result in a connection speed of 28.8k.
Still, it obviously isn't accurate, whatever the cause. :)

i would much prefer 2 way satellite than a shit phone line.
 
M

Mark Parnell

Sometime around Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:04:56 +1000, brucie is reported to have
stated:
In post <[email protected]>
Mark Parnell said...

its not F#&$ing funny. i'm confused enough as it is.

Oookay. We're in a good mood today! :)
What IP address does it pick up?

http://usenet.alt-html.org/ip01.jpg [39k] from this address:
www.keylantracker.com/tracear_ip.php but my IP is constantly changing,
next time i may be in peru. its just like a holiday but not as good.

But you get to avoid all the nasty diseases... ;-)

Then again, the diseases are half the fun. I see your point.
it gets australia right but the IP is nowhere near my physical
location.

From memory, it got Queensland (can't remember where exactly) - even if it
is the other side of Queensland, it's _reasonably_ accurate.
to cut a long story short the oz government has decided that 19.2k is
the minimum acceptable internet connection speed for anyone located
anywhere in australia (part of their "rural improvements" so they can
try again to sell telstra). my connection was 14.4k. telstra have done
their magic and reroute my connection in all sorts of different
directions which result in a connection speed of 28.8k.

But I'm guessing it's a connection of 28.8k that probably has to go twice
as far anyway, so in practice isn't actually any faster? Gotta love
Telstra. :-(
i would much prefer 2 way satellite than a shit phone line.

That's what you get for living in the country, I guess.

Mind you, I'd love to live in the country - I hate the city.
 
B

brucie

But I'm guessing it's a connection of 28.8k that probably has to go twice
as far anyway, so in practice isn't actually any faster?

its complete bullshit. they come out and test the lines for a few days
and give you a bit of magic software to install that will supposedly
fix it. after days of trying i finally found someone who could tell me
what the software is/does before i installed it and all it is is a
database of different proxy servers to connect to. the software
selects the fastest one. i could have done that my F%*^ing self in
fact i do do that my F%*^ing self anyway.

i'm a little pissed with them.
 
M

Mark Parnell

Sometime around Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:15:45 +1000, brucie is reported to have
stated:
its complete bullshit. they come out and test the lines for a few days
and give you a bit of magic software to install that will supposedly
fix it. after days of trying i finally found someone who could tell me
what the software is/does before i installed it and all it is is a
database of different proxy servers to connect to. the software
selects the fastest one. i could have done that my F%*^ing self in
fact i do do that my F%*^ing self anyway.

i'm a little pissed with them.

I can tell. :)

Completely understandable, of course.

I guess you don't have any other options where you are?
 
B

brucie

I can tell. :)

theres never a high powered rifle and bell tower around when you need
one. (another disadvantage of living in the country i suppose).
Completely understandable, of course.
I guess you don't have any other options where you are?

1 way satellite 14.4k/64k at least $10K for the hardware and
$100/month for 150Mb. $1.20 per meg over 150Mb.

2 way 64k/128k add about another $5k for the hardware and $230/month
minimum.

on my crappy little 28.8k line which is really 14.4k i do 3Gb/month.
 
M

Mark Parnell

Sometime around Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:27:48 +1000, brucie is reported to have
stated:
In post <[email protected]>
Mark Parnell said...

theres never a high powered rifle and bell tower around when you need
one. (another disadvantage of living in the country i suppose).

Can't say there are any around here either...
1 way satellite 14.4k/64k at least $10K for the hardware and
$100/month for 150Mb. $1.20 per meg over 150Mb.

2 way 64k/128k add about another $5k for the hardware and $230/month
minimum.

on my crappy little 28.8k line which is really 14.4k i do 3Gb/month.

Ouch. I knew it was expensive, but didn't think it was quite _that_
expensive.

Ahhh...the joys of living in the country. They really need to get their
act together. But I guess that's the choice you made - presumably you
think the benefits outweigh the negatives?
 
B

brucie

Ouch. I knew it was expensive, but didn't think it was quite _that_
expensive.

gowd dammit you're really trying to upset me today. its only that
expensive because of where i live! if i lived about 80km east out of
the interference zone it would cost under $500 for the gowd damn
hardware including installation!. even the bandwidth is cheaper. oh
gowd, i think i'm going to cry now.
Ahhh...the joys of living in the country. They really need to get their
act together. But I guess that's the choice you made - presumably you
think the benefits outweigh the negatives?

i must admit i do enjoy the "bonk" noise all the roadkill makes when
you're driving in/out of town at night.
 
M

Mark Parnell

Sometime around Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:53:49 +1000, brucie is reported to have
stated:
gowd dammit you're really trying to upset me today.

I'm not. Really.
its only that
expensive because of where i live! if i lived about 80km east out of
the interference zone it would cost under $500 for the gowd damn
hardware including installation!. even the bandwidth is cheaper. oh
gowd, i think i'm going to cry now.

Pathetic, innit? All right, I'll leave you alone now. I didn't mean to
upset you. :-(
i must admit i do enjoy the "bonk" noise all the roadkill makes when
you're driving in/out of town at night.

Sounds like fun. I did run over a cat once, but it's just not the same.
And the stupid thing got up and ran off!
 
B

brucie

Plus roadkill is good eating. :)

wrap it in foil and throw it in the engine bay and its cooked by the
time you get home. just need to be careful it doesn't slip and end up
in the radiator fan, makes a terrible mess.
 

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