Java is so 90s - thought you'd all like this

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Rich Morin

I sent them the following comment:
The "layered look" isn't restricted to clothing. The lower levels
of most modern systems are written C/C++ (with occasional assembly
language). Indeed, Java itself is written in C, AFAIK. Above this
level, chaos rules.

Interactive applications may be written in C/C++, Java, Objective-C,
scripting languages (e.g., Perl, Python, Ruby), or combinations of
these languages. .NET (and Mono) offer one approach to combining
languages, but web services (e.g., REST, SOAP) and cross-language
interfaces (e.g., JRuby, RubyCocoa) offer lighter-weight approaches.

Protege (protege.stanford.edu) is an interesting case in point. It
is a portable Knowledge Base (e.g., ontology editing) framework,
written in Java. However, it may be accessed via web services and
Java's BSF (Bean Scripting Framework). So, scripts can be used to
extend Protege, use it as a server, etc.

-r
 
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James Britt

Stephen said:
Doesn't mention Ruby directly but does talk about whats hip (LAMP which
I guess means we can include Ruby).

Nope. At least not when I see the acronym used.

Rarely have I seen a LAMP discussion that bothers to explain that one
might also consider coding with a non-P* language, or using Postgres, or
running under Lighttp, for example.

Which is a shame; technology selection by acronym is probably not an
enlightened decision procedure ('LAMP Considered Harmful').

But, as AJAX has shown, many people prefer to gulp down a buzzword than
digest a full plate of technical details.


It made me think of a phrase from earlier times:

"Java is the COBOL of the '90s"

James

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Shot - Piotr Szotkowski

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Hello.

James Britt:
Rarely have I seen a LAMP discussion that bothers to explain that one
might also consider coding with a non-P* language, or using Postgres,
or running under Lighttp, for example.

Or even change all four components, ending up with FLPR
(FreeBSD, lighttpd, PostgreSQL, Rails): http://flpr.org/ :eek:)

Cheers,
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Stephen Kellett

Shot - Piotr said:
Or even change all four components, ending up with FLPR
(FreeBSD, lighttpd, PostgreSQL, Rails): http://flpr.org/ :eek:)

Some of you won't like this... What about WISR?

Windows, IIS, SQL Server, Ruby.

<Ducks flying debris> Not exactly open source though is it?

Mind you the acronym is nice. WISeR.

Stephen
 
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Martin DeMello

James Britt said:
Rarely have I seen a LAMP discussion that bothers to explain that one
might also consider coding with a non-P* language, or using Postgres, or
running under Lighttp, for example.

We oughta popularise the R* (read: R-star) stack - Ruby and whatever
else you like.

martin
 
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Ezra Zygmuntowicz

Some of you won't like this... What about WISR?

Windows, IIS, SQL Server, Ruby.

<Ducks flying debris> Not exactly open source though is it?

Mind you the acronym is nice. WISeR.

Stephen
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Windows C++, Java, Assembler, Performance Analysis, Troubleshooting


How about LAZR, Linux, Apache, Zsh, Ruby

Cheers-
-Ezra Zygmuntowicz
Yakima Herald-Republic
WebMaster
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Jeff Wood

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LADR ? Linux, Apache, Dynamic languages, Relational datastores ???

;)

j.


How about LAZR, Linux, Apache, Zsh, Ruby

Cheers-
-Ezra Zygmuntowicz
Yakima Herald-Republic
WebMaster
http://yakimaherald.com
509-577-7732
(e-mail address removed)


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Jeff Wood

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JB Eriksson

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LARD. gotta make it pronouncable.

LADR ? Linux, Apache, Dynamic languages, Relational datastores ???

;)

j.

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Jeff Wood

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LADR =3D Ladder , pretty pronounceable. ( we build upwards )

Puby, or LARD or LAMR ... all negative connotations. ... puby ... just reek=
s
of teenage angst.

although, who knows, having somthing like LARD might work ... sometimes, yo=
u
need a good hook to get people to remember something ...

j.

LARD. gotta make it pronouncable.


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Jeff Wood

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Yeah, I like that

+1.

j.

+1 ;)

-Ezra Zygmuntowicz
Yakima Herald-Republic
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Chad Perrin

But don't forget:

Many
Insiders
Currently
Rubying
Originally
Started
On
Free
Tools
Such as
Unix and
C:
Kernighan's
Software

That one's hard to say "no" to.
 

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