Mac OS X 10.6.6 and MacPyhton 2.6 idle doesn't work

[mando]

I've installed MacPython 2.6 under mac os x 2.6 and the IDLE doesn't
work.
I post error log. Suggestions?

Thanks a lot.

Luca


23/06/11 19.18.01 Apple80211 framework[211]
ACInterfaceGetPower called
with NULL interface
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470]
Traceback (most
recent call last):
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470] File
"/
Applications/Python 2.6/IDLE.app/Contents/Resources/idlemain.py",
line
30, in <module>
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470]
main()
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470] File
"/
Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/
idlelib/
PyShell.py", line 1382, in main
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470]
root =
Tk(className="Idle")
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470] File
"/
Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/lib-
tk/
Tkinter.py", line 1645, in __init__
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470]
self._loadtk()
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470] File
"/
Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/lib-
tk/
Tkinter.py", line 1659, in _loadtk
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470] %
(_tkinter.TK_VERSION, tk_version)
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470]
RuntimeError:
23/06/11 19.18.01 [0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470] tk.h
version
(8.4) doesn't match libtk.a version (8.5)
23/06/11 19.18.01 com.apple.launchd.peruser.502[203]
([0x0-0x1f61f6].org.python.IDLE[2470]) Exited with exit code: 1

 

[Ned Deily]

You'll have to install Tcl yourself. The 2.6 binaries were

compiled against a newer version than Apple ships.

Does this requirement apply to Python 2.7 or Python 3.2 for the
Mac or is this requirement Python 2.6 specific?[/QUOTE]

I don't quite understand what's going on there. To the OP: when you say
MacPython 2.6, from where did you install it or did you build it
yourself? In OS X 10.6, Apple ships framework versions of both Tcl/Tk
8.4 and 8.5. Be aware that the 8.5 version shipped by Apple is known to
be very problematic with IDLE and Tkinter. If building youself, install
the ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.5 or stick to 8.4. The most recent python.org
OS X installer for 2.6 was 2.6.5
(http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6.5/) and should work just
fine with the Apple-supplied Tcl/Tk 8.4 or with ActiveState Tcl/Tk 8.4.
More info here:

http://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/

 

[mando]

I took MacPython 2.6 from here:

http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.6.6/python-2.6.6-macosx10.3.dmg


Also I downloaded Tcl/Tk from here http://www.kyngchaos.com/software/frameworks
to using the gis software Qgis....

May be here the issue?

 

[Ned Deily]

I took MacPython 2.6 from here:

http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.6.6/python-2.6.6-macosx10.3.dmg


Also I downloaded Tcl/Tk from here
http://www.kyngchaos.com/software/frameworks
to using the gis software Qgis....

May be here the issue?

I can't reproduce the problem and I really don't see how installing that
Tcl/Tk framework could cause the problem by itself. The version of Tcl
and Tk to dynamically load is added to the executable at link time when
the installer is being built. It should look something like this:

$ cd /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6
$ cd ./lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/
$ otool -L _tkinter.so
_tkinter.so (architecture ppc):
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility
version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19)
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility
version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19)
/usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version
47.1.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 88.3.10)
_tkinter.so (architecture i386):
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (compatibility
version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19)
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (compatibility
version 8.4.0, current version 8.4.19)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 88.3.10)

Note the absolute path to the framework. If that version of the
framework does not exist at that location, the dynamic loader falls back
to the OS X standard location /System/Library/Frameworks ...

If you've only installed that one extra Tcl/Tk version, things should
look something like this:

$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 5 root admin 272 Jul 27 2010 8.5/
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 3 Jun 24 13:31 Current@ -> 8.5
$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 5 root admin 272 Jul 27 2010 8.5/
lrwxr-xr-x 1 sysadminold wheel 3 Jun 24 13:31 Current@ -> 8.5
$ ls -l /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 340 Mar 17 18:27 8.4/
drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 340 Mar 17 18:27 8.5/
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Nov 7 2010 Current@ -> 8.5
$ ls -l /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 374 Mar 17 18:27 8.4/
drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 374 Mar 17 18:27 8.5/
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Nov 7 2010 Current@ -> 8.5

If not, something's wrong. It's especially odd that you would see a
problem with IDLE.app since it is not influenced by shell initialization
steps. Do you have something set in ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist ?
Also, try launching that idle from a shell:

$ /usr/local/bin/idle2.6

 

[mando]

This is the result of the test you suggested to me. What do you think?

Last login: Mon Jun 27 19:35:21 on ttys000
host220-186-dynamic:~ luca$ cd /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/
Versions/2.6
host220-186-dynamic:2.6 luca$ cd ./lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/
host220-186-dynamic:lib-dynload luca$ otool -L _tkinter.so
_tkinter.so (architecture ppc):
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version
47.1.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 88.3.9)
_tkinter.so (architecture i386):
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 88.3.9)
host220-186-dynamic:lib-dynload luca$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/
Tcl.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 8 root admin 272 23 Giu 15:57 8.5
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 3 23 Giu 15:57 Current -> 8.5
host220-186-dynamic:lib-dynload luca$ ls -l /Library/Frameworks/
Tk.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 8 root admin 272 23 Giu 15:57 8.5
lrwxr-xr-x 1 503 wheel 3 23 Giu 15:57 Current -> 8.5
host220-186-dynamic:lib-dynload luca$ ls -l /System/Library/Frameworks/
Tk.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 340 23 Giu 21:53 8.4
drwxr-xr-x 10 root wheel 340 23 Giu 21:53 8.5
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 12 Ott 2010 Current -> 8.5
host220-186-dynamic:lib-dynload luca$ ls -l /System/Library/Frameworks/
Tcl.framework/Versions/
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 374 23 Giu 21:53 8.4
drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 374 23 Giu 21:53 8.5
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 12 Ott 2010 Current -> 8.5
host220-186-dynamic:lib-dynload luca$ sudo /usr/local/bin/idle2.6
Password:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/idle2.6", line 5, in <module>
main()
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/
python2.6/idlelib/PyShell.py", line 1382, in main
root = Tk(className="Idle")
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/
python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1645, in __init__
self._loadtk()
File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/
python2.6/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1659, in _loadtk
% (_tkinter.TK_VERSION, tk_version)
RuntimeError: tk.h version (8.4) doesn't match libtk.a version (8.5)

 

[Ned Deily]

This is the result of the test you suggested to me. What do you think?

Last login: Mon Jun 27 19:35:21 on ttys000
host220-186-dynamic:~ luca$ cd /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/
Versions/2.6
host220-186-dynamic:2.6 luca$ cd ./lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/
host220-186-dynamic:lib-dynload luca$ otool -L _tkinter.so
_tkinter.so (architecture ppc):
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/usr/lib/libmx.A.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version
47.1.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 88.3.9)
_tkinter.so (architecture i386):
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk (compatibility
version 8.5.0, current version 8.5.1)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 88.3.9)

I'm not sure where you got that version of Python from but the output
from otool is definitely not that of a _tkinter.so from the standard
python.org 2.6.6 installer and it explains the results you are seeing.
If you want to stick with the python.org Python 2.6, I suggest you
download the latest installer from here:
http://python.org/download/releases/2.6.6/
and re-install.

Good luck.

 

[mando]

Why my post aren't here?