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Message: [QUOTE="Ian Kelly, post: 5058070"] Python-ast.c is part of the compiler code. That's not the struct used to represent the object at runtime, but the struct used to represent the AST node while compiling. For the runtime definition of slices, look at sliceobject.h and sliceobject.c. Slices are represented as: typedef struct { PyObject_HEAD PyObject *start, *stop, *step; /* not NULL */ } PySliceObject; "PyObject_HEAD" is a macro that incorporates the object type pointer and the reference count. Hence, 5 words. [/QUOTE]