New design

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Warren Oates

:the site is www.kidobi.com.

The sidebar left is very pale blue (against the green), makes it
difficult to read, and the text is very small on a Mac, but this is a
standard x-platform problem.

Each style rule doesn't have to be in it's own container, you can put
them all in one. And there's something about <font class="foobar"> that
sets even my teeth on edge. I mean, if you're going to set a font rule,
fergawdsake, do it with font rules.
 
S

Steve R.

Ryan Pelzer wrote in message ...
Just wondering if anyone likes the site and would like a link on it.
the site is www.kidobi.com.

Why have you made it awkward to read? by deliberately putting that small frame of text on the page
and *forcing* people to use your scrollbar, when the text could easily be diplayed across the page.

Oh, I see.. it's *art* over function. :~(
 
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Ryan Pelzer

Steve R. said:
Ryan Pelzer wrote in message ...

Why have you made it awkward to read? by deliberately putting that small frame of text on the page
and *forcing* people to use your scrollbar, when the text could easily be diplayed across the page.

Oh, I see.. it's *art* over function. :~(
nah i just liked the look over it but do u think it would be easier to use
if the font was over the page?
Ryan
 
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SeeSchloss

Ryan said:

It would probably be better to make your random image code in PHP (the
page would be slightly smaller and users with javascript disabled would
still be able to see it).

I like the colours of the menu and I don't have any difficulty to read
it, but the text zone is indeed too small IMO (in fact, I think the
whole page is too small, I generally don't like fixed size sites too much).

Instead of
<a href="media.php" class="home"><span title="Media Contents"><font
class="zombie">Media</font></span></a>
you could just put :
<a href="media.php" class="zombie" title="Media Contents">Media</a>
and replace a.home with just a in your css, I think the result would be
the same (but it would save a few bytes and remove the deprecated <font>).

You could also make a small difference between a.home and a.home:visited
(like a slightly darker blue)

Oh and I'm not sure that "disabling" right clic is really necessary, I
had to disable javascript to view the source...

But I like the menu, just clean the code a bit :)
 
E

Eric Bohlman

Your spelling leaves a LOT to be desired!

One of my personal pet peeves is the substitution of ellipses for periods
and spaces, along with the lack of capitalization. Then again, the whole
point of writing style, as with any form of design, is to get one's message
across, and the message here seems to be one of dissatisfaction with the
mating habits of small electronic equipment and various abstractions (did
he catch his webcam in bed with his exam, making the internet jealous?).

But back to the more Webish aspects of design; the only message I pick up
from the internal scrolling area is "Hey! Look at me! I know how to do
this! Isn't that cool?" It's kind of a truism that being a good craftsman
isn't so much knowing *how* to do something, but rather knowing *when* to
do it.
 
R

Ryan Pelzer

SeeSchloss said:
It would probably be better to make your random image code in PHP (the
page would be slightly smaller and users with javascript disabled would
still be able to see it).

I like the colours of the menu and I don't have any difficulty to read
it, but the text zone is indeed too small IMO (in fact, I think the
whole page is too small, I generally don't like fixed size sites too much).

Instead of
<a href="media.php" class="home"><span title="Media Contents"><font
class="zombie">Media</font></span></a>
you could just put :
<a href="media.php" class="zombie" title="Media Contents">Media</a>
and replace a.home with just a in your css, I think the result would be
the same (but it would save a few bytes and remove the deprecated <font>).

You could also make a small difference between a.home and a.home:visited
(like a slightly darker blue)

Oh and I'm not sure that "disabling" right clic is really necessary, I
had to disable javascript to view the source...

But I like the menu, just clean the code a bit :)
Thanks for the input.
i will try to fix these things up and get back to you soon.
i hope you willl come back and look at the site again.
Ryan
 
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rf

Did you really? There are at least three other ways to get the source
without disabling javascript :)

Perfect case of: the desiredness of using a right click blocker is in
inverse proportion to the actual value of the source code that is supposedly
hidden.
View->Source in the menu or typing "view-source:http://www.kidobi.com" in
the address bar is perhaps easier :)

view-source: is the best way. In many cases one gets the raw source before
it is mangled by the browsers error recovery. It is dumped into an editor
before going through the DOM.

Cheers
Richard.
 
R

rf


Hmmm. Major usability/accessibility issues here.

I *HATE* iframes. Put the content in a div so I only have one scroll bar to
contend with.

Font size is fixed in IE, presumably by specifying pixels <grin> except for
the date and time </grin> which is useless anyway as it is taken directly
from the clock on the bottom right of my screen.

The fixed font is far too small.

Ok, ignore your font sizes:

When I make my font larger (and I am using IE for this test, Mozilla gets it
right) the text in that iframe overflows itself. You must be using line
height in pixels as well. You should never ever need to use line height
unless you need to make it bigger and then you should use ems.

This is even worse on other pages. Text totally overlays other text

Why is it fixed size. I either have a horizontal scroll bar or wasted
canvas, depending on the width of my canvas.

For that matter why is there a permanent horizontal scroll bar that only
scrolls to whitespace at the right of your page?

Why is the bottom right rectangle not filled in with a picture. This looks
'broken'. Same with the topright rectangle.

The downloads link is a 404.

Right now, before you do anything else, get rid of that no right click
script. It does nothing at all except piss off viewers who usually use the
context menu to bookmark your site and to us reviewers who NEED to look at
the source and at the size of the images.

Just to prove how silly it is I left clicked on your webcam image and
drag/dropped it straight into my website editor. No right click, just a
drag/drop operation which you can NOT disable without disabling the
navigation on your site.
Here it is:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/test/cam0.jpe

Cheers
Richard.
 
R

rf

Matthias Gutfeldt said:
Careful, careful! Releasing information about flaws in copyright
protection mechanisms is illegal!! Check out e.g.
<http://antivirus.about.com/b/a/033599.htm> !!!

Oh My Bloody &Deity.
Don't you just love it when reality is weirder than fiction?

I just hope this is a joke. If not then then SunComm is even stupider than
the lawers they have hired.

Next they will be telling us that we have to open our legs^H^H^H mouths
wider before inserting the CD to avoid tooth scratches.

Then again - this *is* in the U S of A :)

Cheers
Richard.
 
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SeeSchloss

rf said:
Did you really? There are at least three other ways to get the source
without disabling javascript :)

OK, I could also just have typed CTRL+U, but it's stronger than me, when
right click is disabled, I _need_ to disable Javascript and right click
on the page ;-)
Perfect case of: the desiredness of using a right click blocker is in
inverse proportion to the actual value of the source code that is supposedly
hidden.




view-source: is the best way. In many cases one gets the raw source before
it is mangled by the browsers error recovery. It is dumped into an editor
before going through the DOM.

Hey, I didn't know the "view-source:" feature !

By the way, the source is also accessible by right-clicking in the
iframe and selecting "View Page Source". But I just _had_ to enable
right-click :)
 
M

Matthias Gutfeldt

rf said:
Oh My Bloody &Deity.




I just hope this is a joke. If not then then SunComm is even stupider than
the lawers they have hired.

While this particular case is extremely ridiculous, it's even more
ridiculous that they just might have a case. The DMCA has a section that
makes it illegal to circumvent copyright-protection systems. So you may
neither research copyright protection, nor release any information you
found during your illegal research.

It clearly follows that using your keyboard is illegal - you might
accidently stumble upon a key combination used in copyright "protection".

Next they will be telling us that we have to open our legs^H^H^H mouths
wider before inserting the CD to avoid tooth scratches.

Then again - this *is* in the U S of A :)

Yes indeed. I'd argue that you get the government and the laws you
deserve. But when I look at what's happening in our government these
days, I'd rather not.

Matthias
 
T

Toby A Inkster

rf said:
Then again - this *is* in the U S of A :)

Quite scary: the EU has *already* passed a similar directive. As is the
fashion with EU directives though, it doesn't actually effect anyone in
itself -- each conuntry has to implement the copyright directive in its
own laws (so they will all have their own loop-holes and other strangeness).

Most countries haven't yet done this, so write to your MP and get them to
consider the wording of their implementation very carefully.

Loads more info here:
http://ukcdr.org/issues/eucd/
 

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