Newbie - Web Manager

[Ady]

Hi There

At work we have an asp website on win 2000 professional machine. From the
operating system CD a programme called Personal Webmanager (or similar!) was
loaded on. This allows the asp database driven website to run and perform,
as if it was live on the internet.

At home I have windows XP home addition. I am trying to find a similar
program, but can not find. Can anyone please advise the following:

: : What software do I need?
: : Where do I get it from?

Many thanks in advance for any information offered.

Kind Regards

Ady

 

[Ray at]

What you're looking for is IIS. (Internet Information Services.) This is
NOT available on XP Home. You need XP Pro for IIS. There are some hacks
that people have come up with in order to get IIS installed on XP Home, but
I've heard that these hacks are unreliable. If you use your search engine
of choice and search for something like "how to install IIS on XP Home" you
should come across some instructions. But the real solution would be to
purchase XP Pro if you want to do professional things at home.

 

[Ady]

Thanks Ray!

Most helpful!
Ady

What you're looking for is IIS. (Internet Information Services.) This is
NOT available on XP Home. You need XP Pro for IIS. There are some hacks
that people have come up with in order to get IIS installed on XP Home, but
I've heard that these hacks are unreliable. If you use your search engine
of choice and search for something like "how to install IIS on XP Home" you
should come across some instructions. But the real solution would be to
purchase XP Pro if you want to do professional things at home.

 

[Ray at]

Actually, I agree, there have been many issues but I've done it with my
Uncle on his XP Home and it works just fine. I had heard it was difficult
to get it working but we had it working in minutes and I don't remember
there ever being any issues, but this was probably 2 years ago.
Undocumented doesn't mean it doesn't work, just unsupported.

I think I remember hearing that Microsoft actually had a KB article out
there about how to install IIS5 on XP Home shortly after XP was released,
but they removed it. That sure was nice of them to provide us with a hack
for a little while, if this is true! :]

Ray at home

 

[Roland Hall]

:
: What you're looking for is IIS. (Internet Information Services.) This is
: NOT available on XP Home. You need XP Pro for IIS. There are some hacks
: that people have come up with in order to get IIS installed on XP Home,
but
: I've heard that these hacks are unreliable. If you use your search engine
: of choice and search for something like "how to install IIS on XP Home"
you
: should come across some instructions. But the real solution would be to
: purchase XP Pro if you want to do professional things at home.

Actually, I agree, there have been many issues but I've done it with my
Uncle on his XP Home and it works just fine. I had heard it was difficult
to get it working but we had it working in minutes and I don't remember
there ever being any issues, but this was probably 2 years ago.
Undocumented doesn't mean it doesn't work, just unsupported.

I've actually had more issues with it running on W2K Pro but I agree it's
best to work with it the way it is designed because you never know what
might change in the future.

--
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[Roland Hall]

:
: I think I remember hearing that Microsoft actually had a KB article out
: there about how to install IIS5 on XP Home shortly after XP was released,
: but they removed it. That sure was nice of them to provide us with a hack
: for a little while, if this is true! :]

I think that is correct Ray. IIRC, it is because they got a lot of flack
from the user base because of the other home versions running PWS and the
explanation that XP runs IIS, instead of PWS was not what they wanted to
hear.

--
Roland Hall
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[Ady]

Hi There
Many thanks for your continuing thoughts on this subject. Unfortunately I am
running win XP home, however have spotted this (possibly Ms supported) :
http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabIndex=4&tabId=46

Is this what is need? A quote from the website:

"Development Web Server. Develop and test your ASP.NET applications,
without requiring IIS. Web Matrix includes a lightweight personal web server
that serves most web content, including ASP.NET pages and XML Web Services,
for local requests.""

I am trying to run an ASP database driven website.

Many thanks!

Ady

 

[Roland Hall]

:
: Hi There
: Many thanks for your continuing thoughts on this subject. Unfortunately I
am
: running win XP home, however have spotted this (possibly Ms supported) :
: http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabIndex=4&tabId=46
:
: Is this what is need? A quote from the website:
:
: "Development Web Server. Develop and test your ASP.NET applications,
: without requiring IIS. Web Matrix includes a lightweight personal web
server
: that serves most web content, including ASP.NET pages and XML Web
Services,
: for local requests.""
:
: I am trying to run an ASP database driven website.

I am not that familiar with Web Matrix although I know it does install a web
server you can use with Web Matrix. I'm not sure if you can access that
directly because I've never tried. Also, Web Matrix is actually designed
for ASP.NET applications, not Classic ASP, which is what this NG supports.
I also have no information regarding Web Matrix running on XP Home. It
should give you minimum system requirements.

I think Visual Studio.NET supports ASP coding but I don't think Web Matrix
does because it supports C#, VB and J#. VB is not VBScript and J# is not
jscript, which is used with Classic ASP. ASP files end with .asp. ASP.NET
files end with .aspx and .aspc.

Ok, if you look at the FAQ on ASP.NET it says XP Home is supported.

http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/faq.aspx

Here is something else:

What languages can I use with ASP.NET Web Matrix?

ASP.NET Web Matrix supports building ASP.NET Web applications using VB .NET,
C#, or the J# programming languages.

This is not Classic ASP, as I mentioned earlier.

Other questions you may have might be answered in the FAQ listed above.

HTH...


--
Roland Hall
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[Ady]

Thanks Roland! Will investigate further.

Ady

 

[Roland Hall]

:
: Thanks Roland! Will investigate further.
: > jscript, which is used with Classic ASP. ASP files end with .asp.
: ASP.NET
: > files end with .aspx and .aspc.

Hi Ady...

I made a typo here. .aspc should be .ascx. ASCX is the user control page.
It replaces the HTML include command.

Roland

 

[Jeff Cochran]

Hi There
Many thanks for your continuing thoughts on this subject. Unfortunately I am
running win XP home, however have spotted this (possibly Ms supported) :
http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabIndex=4&tabId=46

Is this what is need? A quote from the website:

"Development Web Server. Develop and test your ASP.NET applications,
without requiring IIS. Web Matrix includes a lightweight personal web server
that serves most web content, including ASP.NET pages and XML Web Services,
for local requests.""

I am trying to run an ASP database driven website.

WebMatrix works for design and testing, but not production. For that
you need IIS, and for IIS you need XP Pro or a server operating
system, not XP Home.

Jeff

:
: I think I remember hearing that Microsoft actually had a KB article out
: there about how to install IIS5 on XP Home shortly after XP was released,
: but they removed it. That sure was nice of them to provide us with a hack
: for a little while, if this is true! :]

I think that is correct Ray. IIRC, it is because they got a lot of flack
from the user base because of the other home versions running PWS and the
explanation that XP runs IIS, instead of PWS was not what they wanted to
hear.

--
Roland Hall
/* This information is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
or fitness for a particular purpose. */
Technet Script Center - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/
WSH 5.6 Documentation - http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/list/webdev.asp
MSDN Library - http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp