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Message: [QUOTE="James Kanze, post: 3903769"] Since you'll be writing the tests, that won't help me much. And I want the code not only to work, but to be maintainable. Yes, and no professionally competent organization will accept code just because it passes some arbitrary set of tests. It has to be maintainable. In such cases, one could argue that the development isn't just the implementer; that the implementer is in fact part of my in house team. In such cases, impromtu communication is important; that's why I always work on the customer site. I tried once working at a distance, but quickly found that I was "out of the loop". Also, I don't pretend to fournish finished software in such cases. I'm part of the customer's team (except for tax and labor law purposes). [/QUOTE]