Pronunciation of "char"

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Debajit Adhikary

Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?
 
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Lew Pitcher

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Debajit said:
Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?

AFAIK, no one has been trivial enough to declare a standard
pronunciation for the C keyword "char".

In any case, to me "char" is pronounced "char", not "tchar" or "kar".


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Lew Pitcher, IT Consultant, Enterprise Application Architecture
Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed here are my own, not my employer's)
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Richard Bos

Debajit Adhikary said:
Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?

Undoubtedly Stroustrup pronounces the full word "tcharatster", but I do
not.

Richard
 
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Alex Fraser

Debajit Adhikary said:
Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?

IME, native English speakers mostly say "tchar" (and all say "karakter").
There's always one or two oddballs though ;).

"Char" is an English word, spoken "tchar".

Alex
 
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Kenny McCormack

IME, native English speakers mostly say "tchar" (and all say "karakter").
There's always one or two oddballs though ;).

"Char" is an English word, spoken "tchar".

I don't follow this. Where is the 't' coming from?

I pronounce it "char", like in "char broiled steaks".
 
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Dan Pop

In said:
Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?

Read the FAQ. It deals even with such trivia!

Dan
 
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Dan Pop

In said:
IME, native English speakers mostly say "tchar" (and all say "karakter").
There's always one or two oddballs though ;).

"Char" is an English word, spoken "tchar".

But, unlike the C keyword "char", it is entirely unrelated to character
types. In English, semantics often dictate pronunciation, as in
"bass" (ichthyology) vs "bass" (music) or "read" (present tense) vs "read"
(past tense).

So, even for a native English speaker, I consider "tchar" as some kind
of machismo. The ones I know used "kar" (in a C context, obviously).

BTW, what about the French programmers? Are they faithful to their
people's practice of pronouncing everything according to the French
pronunciation rules and say "shar" or do they apply the "semantics
dictate pronunciation" rule and say "kar" (from "caractère")?

Dan
 
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Alex Fraser

Dan Pop said:
But, unlike the C keyword "char", it is entirely unrelated to character
types.
True.

In English, semantics often dictate pronunciation, as in
"bass" (ichthyology) vs "bass" (music) or "read" (present tense) vs
"read" (past tense).

So, even for a native English speaker, I consider "tchar" as some kind
of machismo.

I pity your insecurity if you think that is so ;).

Seriously though, I can't say I ever gave it much thought; to me it's just a
case of "I say tomahto, you say tomayto," I use what I first heard, and I
couldn't care less how other people say it, as long as the meaning is clear.

Alex
 
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Gordon Burditt

Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?

ANSI C does not require pronunciation at all. Any pronunciation is
platform-specific and probably programmer-specific as well.

Gordon L. Burditt
 
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Serge Paccalin

Le mardi 20 juillet 2004 à 16:53, Dan Pop a écrit dans comp.lang.c :
BTW, what about the French programmers? Are they faithful to their
people's practice of pronouncing everything according to the French
pronunciation rules and say "shar" or do they apply the "semantics
dictate pronunciation" rule and say "kar" (from "caractère")?

It depends. Some pronounce "shar", others pronounce "kar".

Note that there is a French word spelled "char", pronounced "shar", and
meaning "tank", in the military sense (i.e. the armoured vehicule).

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Emmanuel Delahaye

Dan Pop a utilisé son clavier pour écrire :
BTW, what about the French programmers? Are they faithful to their
people's practice of pronouncing everything according to the French
pronunciation rules and say "shar"

Like my coworkers, I say 'shar'.
or do they apply the "semantics
dictate pronunciation" rule and say "kar" (from "caractère")?

Never heard 'kar' in France in this context.
 
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Emmanuel Delahaye

Serge Paccalin a écrit :
Note that there is a French word spelled "char", pronounced "shar", and
meaning "tank", in the military sense (i.e. the armoured vehicule).

'char' It's also a car in French Canadian.
 
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Dan Pop

In said:
Note that there is a French word spelled "char", pronounced "shar", and
meaning "tank", in the military sense (i.e. the armoured vehicule).

I know, but it is as relevant as the English "char" word.

Dan
 
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Keith Thompson

Debajit Adhikary said:
Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?

Peter Seebach's excellent Infrequently Asked Questions list,
<http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/faqs/c-iaq.html>, says:

19.26: How do you pronounce ``char''?

Like the first word of ``char *''. The accent is generally on the
first syllable.

Seriously, though, I don't think there's any real consensus on the
issue.
 
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Default User

Debajit said:
Now I know (from Stroustrup's site) that "char" is pronounced "tchar"
and not "kar".

Does the same hold true largely in the C world?


No no, it's pronounced "throat-warbler mangrove".




Brian Rodenborn
 
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kal

Read the FAQ. It deals even with such trivia!

What do you know, it IS there!

Question 20.39

How do you pronounce ``char''?

You can pronounce the C keyword ``char'' in at least
three ways: like the English words ``char,'' ``care,''
or ``car;'' the choice is arbitrary.

Of course the correct pronunciation is "khar" just as
the correct pronunciation of "caesar" is "kaisar".

But the standard does not define pronunciations, so saying
this aloud may result in undefined behaviour.
 

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