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Michael W. Ryder
Why do I sometimes see replies to posts in this group but not the
original posting?
original posting?
J
James Edward Gray II
This could be an issue with the gateway script between mailing list
and newsgroup. Can you post me to example replies so I can look into
this?
James Edward Gray II
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gabriele renzi
James Edward Gray II ha scritto:
I just noticed this too, for example I can read ruby-talk:204879 (
message-id: <[email protected]> )
but not the message it was replying to (In-reply-to:
<[email protected]>).
I'm on the nntp side of the gw.
I just noticed this too, for example I can read ruby-talk:204879 (
message-id: <[email protected]> )
but not the message it was replying to (In-reply-to:
<[email protected]>).
I'm on the nntp side of the gw.
M
Michael W. Ryder
If you look at the Challenge thread in the newsgroup it appears theJames said:
replies by Robert Dober are Not being posted but you can see the quoted
material in subsequent replies by others.
M
Michael W. Ryder
Michael said:
Part of the reason I asked this question is that I see posts that I
assume are replying to other posts that do not include any quoted
material which really makes it hard to follow.
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James Edward Gray II
OK, just so I'm clear, you do see this message:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/204879
but you do not see this one:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/203921
I'm on the mailing list and as you can see from the links above it
did seem to receive both. Let me check the newsgroup...
Hmmm, Google Groups does show both messages:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/0259073f7774cd0d
and:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/350edcc44c92f04e
Am I missing something here?
James Edward Gray II
J
James Edward Gray II
You're telling me that you are missing these two messages, right?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/350edcc44c92f04e
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/350edcc44c92f04e
Hmm, yes. I can't find either of those on Google Groups. You use
the newsgroup, not the mailing list, right?
Let me look into these two messages and see what I can learn...
James Edward Gray II
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James Edward Gray II
I screwed up those links. I meant:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/202655
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/202680
Sorry for the confusion.
James Edward Gray II
J
James Edward Gray II
I looked into this but lacked the log information I needed to track
down what really happened with these. I've added more logging to the
gateway that I hope would help me zero in on the problem, should it
happen again.
Please keep an eye out for these mysterious missing messages in the
future and sick me on them when they occur. I will then look into
those messages, cross check the logs, and see if I can eliminate
whatever issue is eating messages.
Thank you.
James Edward Gray II
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Michael W. Ryder
It seems to be a problem with the postings with certain users. If oneJames said:
message is missing from a poster they all are.
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F. Senault
Le 31 juillet 2006 à 22:56, James Edward Gray II a écrit :
------=_Part_81117_24403003.1153300936075
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
And
------=_Part_82136_1234888.1153309282756
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
HTML posts, probably.
Bingo :
Jul 19 11:22:46 talisker nnrpd[24018]: bristol.highgroove.com post failed 437 HTML post
Jul 19 13:41:53 talisker nnrpd[39409]: bristol.highgroove.com post failed 437 HTML post
(Based on the posting date - I'm in GMT+2 right now.)
Now, I could disable the filter, but the posts might not go far on
usenet anyway, I'm afraid.
Fred
------=_Part_81117_24403003.1153300936075
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
And
------=_Part_82136_1234888.1153309282756
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
HTML posts, probably.
Bingo :
Jul 19 11:22:46 talisker nnrpd[24018]: bristol.highgroove.com post failed 437 HTML post
Jul 19 13:41:53 talisker nnrpd[39409]: bristol.highgroove.com post failed 437 HTML post
(Based on the posting date - I'm in GMT+2 right now.)
Now, I could disable the filter, but the posts might not go far on
usenet anyway, I'm afraid.
Fred
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James Edward Gray II
Excellent catch Fred!
I'm open to any suggestions for how we could improve this... Perhaps =20=
we need a Ruby Quiz to textify HTML messages.
James Edward Gray II
F
F. Senault
Le 1 août 2006 à 02:18, James Edward Gray II a écrit :
Heh. I had to do it for a small project of mine [1] and I used the
brute force unixy approach - pipe everything into a program much better
at it than I :
/usr/local/bin/links -dump -force-html
-html-assume-codepage iso8859-15
-codepage iso8859-15 -width 76
Now, I suspect those messages are multipart (/alternative) messages, so
we nearly always gave a text part. It should be possible with the
rubymail project, or with a custom MIME parser.
I've already done it in perl, I'll take a look at the portability of the
code. I expect it top be quite low, though... :}
Fred
[1] http://news.lacave.net/rss/ - main page in French, but most parts
are in English... or in ruby...
On Jul 31, 2006, at 6:30 PM, F. Senault wrote:
Excellent catch Fred!
I'm open to any suggestions for how we could improve this... Perhaps
we need a Ruby Quiz to textify HTML messages.
Heh. I had to do it for a small project of mine [1] and I used the
brute force unixy approach - pipe everything into a program much better
at it than I :
/usr/local/bin/links -dump -force-html
-html-assume-codepage iso8859-15
-codepage iso8859-15 -width 76
Now, I suspect those messages are multipart (/alternative) messages, so
we nearly always gave a text part. It should be possible with the
rubymail project, or with a custom MIME parser.
I've already done it in perl, I'll take a look at the portability of the
code. I expect it top be quite low, though... :}
Fred
[1] http://news.lacave.net/rss/ - main page in French, but most parts
are in English... or in ruby...
D
Dave Rose
...i know this is a little off topic...but i went to ruby-forum.com toChristian said:
SEARCH this list and could not...the error was the search has been
disabled due to a technical problem...what gives???
A
A. S. Bradbury
The best way to search the list archives is either through searching
comp.lang.ruby on http://groups.google.com or to search using Namazu at
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml
Alex
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Rob Sanheim
Or use Gmane, which has a decent web interface. The interface at
Namazu is horrible - I don't think I've ever remembered what button
does what until clicking on a few blindly. Not to mention they all
are about 2px by 2px.
- Rob
J
James Edward Gray II
Wow, I don't think I have ever seen the words "Gmane" and "decent" in
the same sentence before.
James Edward Gray II
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Rob Sanheim
Wow, I don't think I have ever seen the words "Gmane" and "decent" in
the same sentence before.
James Edward Gray II
Compared to one at http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/, its definitely "decent". =)
- rob
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Justin Collins
Hovering over them tells you what they doRob said:
-Justin
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Rob Sanheim
On 8/1/06 said:Hovering over them tells you what they do
-Justin
Yeah, I know - but a good UI is one where you don't have to hover and
wait for tool tip help. The icons should be immediately obvious.
(Just one of my pet peeves...)
- rob