Regular express for , <ul> and <ol> tags

Shahid · Aug 25, 2008

Hi,
I am parsing an .HTML file that contains following example code:
<div>
Normal Text Arial 12
Black before bullets.
<ul>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet1: If you want to convert bitmap
images Single Line.</li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet2: D you want to convert Times New
Roman Bold Red 13 like BMP, JPG?</
li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet3 bold: If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4 bold 14: If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG 2
lines.</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4
bold 14 all Red: If you
want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG.</li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4 bold 14 Black: Blue If you want to convert bitmap. Green 16 images like BMP, JPG.
</li>
</ul>
Normal
Text Red Arial 14 after bullets.
 


</div>

I am trying to parse all the , <ol> and <ul> tags but couldn't
succeed yet.
I am trying following Regular Expression(RE):
"(<[pP][^>]*>(.*)</[pP]>)|(<[oO][lL][^>]+>(.*)</[oO][lL]>)|(<[uU][lL]
[^>]+>(.*)</[uU][lL]>)"

I am using preg_match_all(). Remember I am working in PHP.
If any one can help me, I will be very grateful to him/her. I need its
solution urgent.

Peter Makholm · Aug 25, 2008

Shahid said:
I am trying to parse all the , <ol> and <ul> tags but couldn't
succeed yet.
I am trying following Regular Expression(RE):
"(<[pP][^>]*>(.*)</[pP]>)|(<[oO][lL][^>]+>(.*)</[oO][lL]>)|(<[uU][lL]
[^>]+>(.*)</[uU][lL]>)"

Regular expressions is in general not the right tool to hadle xml and
other xml-like data formats. You should us a module that parses the
HTML correctly instead. HTML::TreeBuilder is one possibility.

I am using preg_match_all(). Remember I am working in PHP.

Then you shouldn't use an perl group for you question. but even PHP
should have better tools to parse HTML than regular
expressionsm. Asking in a PHP forum should tell you which tools this
is.

//Makholm

Sherm Pendley · Aug 25, 2008

Shahid said:
I am using preg_match_all(). Remember I am working in PHP.

Try comp.lang.php - we speak Perl here.

sherm--

Jürgen Exner · Aug 25, 2008

Shahid said:
I am parsing an .HTML file that contains following example code: [snip]
I am trying to parse all the , <ol> and <ul> tags but couldn't
succeed yet.
I am trying following Regular Expression(RE):
"(<[pP][^>]*>(.*)</[pP]>)|(<[oO][lL][^>]+>(.*)</[oO][lL]>)|(<[uU][lL]
[^>]+>(.*)</[uU][lL]>)"

HTML is not a regular language! While the extensions to Perl's RE
language might be powerful enough to cover HTML, no sane person would
even try to do so. If you want to parse HTML then use a proper HTML
parser. There are several on CPAN.

I am using preg_match_all().

Undefined subroutine &main:

reg_match_all called at [...]

Remember I am working in PHP.

You must have walked into the wrong room. This here is about Perl. Of
course, I suppose PHP's REs are not even as powerful as Perl's, so
probably trying to parse HTML using PHP's REs is even worse than using
Perl's REs.

If any one can help me, I will be very grateful to him/her. I need its
solution urgent.

Use a parser, dude.

jue

sln · Sep 20, 2008

Shahid said:
Shahid said:

I am parsing an .HTML file that contains following example code: [snip]
I am trying to parse all the , <ol> and <ul> tags but couldn't
succeed yet.
I am trying following Regular Expression(RE):
"(<[pP][^>]*>(.*)</[pP]>)|(<[oO][lL][^>]+>(.*)</[oO][lL]>)|(<[uU][lL]
[^>]+>(.*)</[uU][lL]>)"

Click to expand...

HTML is not a regular language!

Not only not a real language, Html is not a regular expression.

While the extensions to Perl's RE
language might be powerful enough to cover HTML

That power is not needed, nor ever was

, no sane person would
even try to do so.

I guess I'm not sane then

If you want to parse HTML then use a proper HTML
parser. There are several on CPAN.

But do they use Perl independent regular expressions, or a system dependent
C library?

I am using preg_match_all().

Click to expand...

Undefined subroutine &main:reg_match_all called at [...]

Remember I am working in PHP.

Click to expand...

You must have walked into the wrong room. This here is about Perl. Of
course, I suppose PHP's REs are not even as powerful as Perl's, so
probably trying to parse HTML using PHP's REs is even worse than using
Perl's REs.

I agree, well don't know actually what php's rx engine can do. I'm sure it
can, in fact, I'm positive it can parse not only html, but any markup that exists.
Because, fact is, it's very very simple.

Use a parser, dude.

jue

Dude,

Parsing Markup is considered to be the easiest thing in the world.
It was the first design goal. Without the ability to peel off the first layer,
markup, it is not even possible to get to the sub-layers.

This is what the OP was asking. Not if it was too hard.

Releasing RxParse 2.0 in a day or two. Not just a parser anymore.

sln

sln · Sep 20, 2008

Try comp.lang.php - we speak Perl here.

sherm--

I believe it was a regular expression question though, wasn't it?

sln

sln · Sep 20, 2008

Shahid said:
Shahid said:

I am trying to parse all the , <ol> and <ul> tags but couldn't
succeed yet.
I am trying following Regular Expression(RE):
"(<[pP][^>]*>(.*)</[pP]>)|(<[oO][lL][^>]+>(.*)</[oO][lL]>)|(<[uU][lL]
[^>]+>(.*)</[uU][lL]>)"

Click to expand...

Regular expressions is in general not the right tool to hadle xml and
other xml-like data formats. You should us a module that parses the
HTML correctly instead. HTML::TreeBuilder is one possibility.

This is hillarious since the w3c uses regular expression notation to detail the formal
specifications for html and xml.

Then you shouldn't use an perl group for you question. but even PHP
should have better tools to parse HTML than regular
expressionsm.

Wrong! There is no better markup syntax parser than regular expressions, none!

Asking in a PHP forum should tell you which tools this
is.

//Makholm

Demigod!

Part of the RxParse 2.0 engine code being released in a day or 2, it parses anything.
Parsing is the easy part, adding tools is something else. I'm just adjusting parameters now.

%Dflth = (
'hparsestart' => \&dflt_parsestart,
'hparseend' => \&dflt_parseend,
'hstart' => \&dflt_start,
'hend' => \&dflt_end,
'hchar' => \&dflt_char,
'hcdata' => \&dflt_cdata,
'hcomment' => \&dflt_comment,
'hattlist' => \&dflt_attlist,
'hentity' => \&dflt_entity,
'hdoctype' => \&dflt_doctype,
'helement' => \&dflt_element,
'hxmldecl' => \&dflt_xmldecl,
'hproc' => \&dflt_proc,
'herror' => \&dflt_error,
'hcopy' => \&dflt_copy,
);
@UC_Nstart = (
"\\x{C0}-\\x{D6}",
"\\x{D8}-\\x{F6}",
"\\x{F8}-\\x{2FF}",
"\\x{370}-\\x{37D}",
"\\x{37F}-\\x{1FFF}",
"\\x{200C}-\\x{200D}",
"\\x{2070}-\\x{218F}",
"\\x{2C00}-\\x{2FEF}",
"\\x{3001}-\\x{D7FF}",
"\\x{F900}-\\x{FDCF}",
"\\x{FDF0}-\\x{FFFD}",
"\\x{10000}-\\x{EFFFF}",
);
@UC_Nchar = (
"\\x{B7}",
"\\x{0300}-\\x{036F}",
"\\x{203F}-\\x{2040}",
);
$Nstrt = "[A-Za-z_:".join ('',@UC_Nstart)."]";
$Nchar = "[-\\w:\\.".join ('',@UC_Nchar).join ('',@UC_Nstart)."]";
$Name = "(?:$Nstrt$Nchar*?)";
#die "$Name\n";

## v2 parse regex:
## -------------------------------------------------
$RxParseXP1 =
qr/(?:<(?

?

\/*)($Name)\s*(\/*))|(?

$Name+)(\s+(?

?

?:".*?")|(?:'.*?'))|(?:[^>]*?))+)\s*(\/?))|(?:\?(.*?)\?)|(?:!(?

?

OCTYPE(.*?))|(?:\[CDATA\[(.*?)\]\])|(?:--(.*?)--)|(?:ATTLIST(.*?))|(?:ENTITY(.*?))|(?:ELEMENT(.*?)))))>)|(.+?)/s;
# ( <( ( 1 12 2 3 3)|( 4 45 ( ( ( )|( ))|( )) 5 6 6)|( 7 7 )|( !( ( 8 8)|( 9 9 )|( 0 0 )|(
1 1)|( 2 2)|( 3 3))))>)|4 4

$RxAttr = qr/^\s+(?

?

$Name)\s*=\s*("|'|))|($Name+))/;

$RxAttr_DL1 = qr/^(?

[^'&<]*?)|([^'<]*?))'/;
$RxAttr_DL2 = qr/^(?

[^"&<]*?)|([^"<]*?))"/;
$RxAttr_DL3 = qr/^([^"'=<\s]+)/;
$RxAttr_RM = qr/[^\s\n]+/;

$RxPi = qr/^($Name)\s+(.*?)$/s;

Jürgen Exner · Sep 20, 2008

Not only not a real language, Html is not a regular expression.

I have absolutely no idea what what you mean by this. Not only is "real"
not well defined but why would snybody even think about a language
("HyperText Markup _LANGUAGE_") being an expression?

Do you even know what a regular language is and what properties are
associated with being a regular language resp. what properties are
assiciated with _NOT_ being a regular language?

That power is not needed, nor ever was

Oh, that answers that question. Obviously you are unaware that only
regular languages can be parsed by (ordinary) regular expressions which
have the same expressiveness as regular grammars and finite automatons.

To parse context-sensitive languages you need at least a
non-deterministic pushdown automaton which in turn cannot be described
using regular expressions.

If you don't believe me then please re-read your books about Theory of
Programming Languages, chapter The Chomsky Hierarchy.

Now, Perl's REs are far more powerful than ordinary regular expressions,
so they might be powerful enough to parse context-sensitive languages.
But it's still a stupid thing to do. A simple parser is far easier to
write and to maintain than a gigantic mess of REs.

I guess I'm not sane then

That's your call, not mine.

But do they use Perl independent regular expressions, or a system dependent
C library?

What does it matter? They parse HTML and thus solve the task at hand.
Correctly!

I agree, well don't know actually what php's rx engine can do. I'm sure it
can, in fact, I'm positive it can parse not only html, but any markup that exists.
Because, fact is, it's very very simple.

Oh, then by all means, please publish your findings. Contradicting
Chomsky is worth at least a Ph.D.

jue

Tad J McClellan · Sep 20, 2008

Not only not a real language,

He did not say real language.

He said regular language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language

That power is not needed,

But it is. It has been mathematically proven to be needed.

If a parser can accept a context-free language (eg. HTML) then
the parser is not "regular".

I guess I'm not sane then

You just don't know enough about language theory to be taken seriously.

Should you choose to remedy that, you could start with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy#The_hierarchy

If you should really want to sling the lingo believably, then
continue with the "Dragon book".

sln · Sep 20, 2008

He did not say real language.

He said regular language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language

But it is. It has been mathematically proven to be needed.

If a parser can accept a context-free language (eg. HTML) then
the parser is not "regular".

You just don't know enough about language theory to be taken seriously.

Should you choose to remedy that, you could start with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy#The_hierarchy

If you should really want to sling the lingo believably, then
continue with the "Dragon book".

My friends would call you an "utter, and complete idiot", but I won't.
I'm releasing a version 2 of my stuff. And its loaded. You would have
to write Perl interface just to simplify all the low level tools added.

The engine has been re-written. It does any markup. Traps errors better than,
well... better than any parser that ever was. Parsing markup is the easiest thing in
the world to do. Trapping errors isin't so easy. My Perl regular expression engine is the
best in the world, its better than C based code, much better.

You live in a fantacy world, and have no knowledge of what markup is. Only in the vaguest
sence.

Its not Parsing I am promoting, my power is in my parsing. I am promoting my tools and
nothing else.

And I have some very powerful tools I am introducing in version 2.

WHAT, YOU WANT TO PARSE HTML WITH THE SIMPLEST REGULAR EXPRESSION ???????

Simple, and stupid, and the most basic!!!!
(its all in my upcoming code to be posted right here as well as other forums)

Good luck friend. Source top, parse bottom.
I was hoping not to have to do this. There unique examples of the power in the
tools when I post version 2. Posted below is just simple regular expression.

Why do you even try to test me? What are you afraid of?

sln/aka ROBIC0

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class='messagemiddle'> We all know he claims he was diagnosed with mononucleosis and he claims was a factor early in the year. I have questions. 
 
1. Why did he say that he has had mono since 2006? What does this mean? 
 
2. Why did he say he felt 100% and was feeling so great in the first few rounds when he was killing everyone at AO? IF HE WAS ILL? 
 
3. Why did Santoro say "he's moving better than ever and playing better than ever" after he lost to Roger at AO if Roger was ILL? 
 
4. Why did Federer ONLY suffer effects of Mono after he got taken to 5 sets by Tipseravic and later beaten by Djokovic but not when he won his first few matches where he stated he was at 100%? Is this
a case of "When i win, i'm 100% but if i lose, i will use mono as an excuse??" 
 
5. We all see how Ancic has been affected by Mono, the guy has had to stop playing tennis for a long time but Federer is able to play 5 set battle against Tipseravic and then, right after the match,
go work out? and then come back and win his next two matches in straight sets? How can a guy with mono be able to do this? 
 
6. He then suffers a few losses, after losing to Novak and 'mono' is the excuse again. Why can't it just be a confidence thing after losing to Novak? Can Roger never run into a mental slump? just
physical ones? 
 
7. He then all off sudden, AS I FORETOLD, gets it together for clay court season and is remarkably at 100% just in time for FO? He made finals of Rome, Hamburg and finals of FO... on clay, where
points are longest. So, he just happened to get better just in time for clay court season? Or this is simply a case of Roger losing earlier, cause he lost confidence, and then getting motivated for FO
and kicking butt? proving he never really was affected by Mono? 
 
8. He then played what could've been his best tennis ever at Wimbledon, breezing through all his matches leading into final, but then lost in finals and 'mono' talks resumed. So he's at 100% until
final ad then 'mono' creeps up? 
 
 
so many good questions above, and below here is a poll to see what you guys think Edited by MikeOne 9/11/2008 10:23 AM 
 ----- Mike's compilation of gems: 
 
Tennis2006: "Hewitt better than Agassi" 
TheLogo: "Karlovic would EASILY have been a dominant force in 90s" 
FedRus: "Sampras was the most ill player I'd ever seen. His tongue licking-between teeth on closeups made me puke if I was eating. ABSOLUTELY THE MOST DISCUSTING HUMAN BEING ON THE TENNIS PLANTED
BACK THEN !!!!!!!!!!!" 
OOCC: "A service winner can only be an ace" 
cyBorg: "Sampras is 9th in GOAT list" 
Huntingyou: "Federer would beat Sampras at Wimbledon 1,1,1, and i'm being nice" * 
 
* Pete at 36 
 
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
We all know he claims he was diagnosed with mononucleosis and he claims was a factor early in the year. I have questions.</div> 
 
The Greg Maddux of posters once again with highly inteelectual qustions fo the masses..... 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
1. Why did he say that he has had mono since 2006? What does this mean?</div> 
 
Yes what does it mean??? Enlighten us federphiles. 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
2. Why did he say he felt 100% and was feeling so great in the first few rounds when he was killing everyone at AO? </div> 
 
Another great question. Anyone???? 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
3. Why did Santoro say "he's moving better than ever and playing better than ever" after he lost to Roger at AO if Roger was ILL?</div> 
 
Yes Tennis2006 why???? 
<a href="http://tennis.com/messageboard/foru...t=1&highlight=santoro+federer&highlightmode=1" target="_blank"
title="http://tennis.com/messageboard/foru...t=1&highlight=santoro+federer&highlightmode=1">http://tennis.com/messageboard/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6042&star...</a>
 
 
You did post this did you not???? 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
4. Why did Federer ONLY suffer effects of Mono after he got taken to 5 sets by Tipseravic and later beaten by Djokovic but not when he won his first few matches where he stated he was at 100%? Is this
a case of "When i win, i'm 100% but if i lose, i will use mono as an excuse??"</div> 
 
Again... Federphiles???? 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
5. We all see how Ancic has been affected by Mono, the guy has had to stop playing tennis for a long time but Federer is able to play 5 set battle against Tipseravic and the right after the match, go
work out? and then come back and win his next two matches in straight sets? How can a guy with mono be able to do this?</div> 
 
Yes how can he???? Inquiring minds would like to know. 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
6. He then suffers a few losses, after losing to Novak and 'mono' is the excuse again. Why can't it just be a confidence thing after losing to Novak?</div> 
 
Why can't it??? Federphiles???? 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
7. He then all off sudden, AS I FORETOLD, gets it together for clay court season and is remarkably at 100% just in time for FO? He made finals of Rome, Hamburg and finals of FO... on clay, where
points ar slowest. So, he just happened to get better just in time for clay court season? Or this simply a case of Roger losing earlier, cause he lost confidence, and then getting motivated for FO and
kicking butt? proving he never really as affected by Mono?</div> 
 
Wasn't he constantly going up a break and the double breaks vs Nadal??? So the mono only kicked in after he lost the leads???? 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
8. He then is playing his best tennis ever at Wimbledon, breezing through all his matches leading into final, but then loses and 'mono' talks resume. So he's at 100% until final ad then 'mono' creeps
up?</div> 
 
Yes how did Fed get to the final only dropping a set along the way, while only getting broken twice??? 
 
<div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:16 PM 
so many good questions above, and below here is a poll to see what you guys think 
</div> 
 
So many good questions. But as usal, such nonsensical answers, if you get any at all. ----- "Pete is the greatest player ever. I'd even put him ahead of myself" -Rod Laver(mid 90's and
reitterated in 2000) 
 
"Sure, it's disappointing he didn't win the French Open but you cannot deny he is the best ever... Rod Laver says he is the best ever.... and if he says Pete's the best, then he is the best." -Billie
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class='messagemiddle'> LOL! Why don't you ask Federer's doctor? </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0'
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LOL! Why don't you ask Federer's doctor?</div> 
 
You mean the one who diagnsed the recurring version that kept creeping up after losses??? <img align='middle' src='http://www.tennis.com/messageboard/images/emoticons/icon_lol.gif'> <img
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2000) 
 
"Sure, it's disappointing he didn't win the French Open but you cannot deny he is the best ever... Rod Laver says he is the best ever.... and if he says Pete's the best, then he is the best." -Billie
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class='messagemiddle'> Mikeone, you beat me to it! I was gonna run a "did he, didn't he?" poll on this because, frankly, I believe it's all baloney. A dress rehearsal for his decline. 
 
I don't blame the guy for feeling pressure of being number one, as he said himself, he had a monster on his back. But why didn't he just fess up? Why not simply come clean and place his own
victories in context so that then we could all agree, he been winning a lot but it could never last so long as Rafa was going to peak...followed by Novak and maybe some others? 
 
Mono? 
 
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NOW declares that "I am actually FEELING MUCH BETTER NOW at 27 than i EVER did in my career"............ 
 
 
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 1:40 PM 
 
Mikeone, you beat me to it! I was gonna run a "did he, didn't he?" poll on this because, frankly, I believe it's all baloney. A dress rehearsal for his decline. 
 
I don't blame the guy for feeling pressure of being number one, as he said himself, he had a monster on his back. But why didn't he just fess up? Why not simply come clean and place his own
victories in context so that then we could all agree, he been winning a lot but it could never last so long as Rafa was going to peak...followed by Novak and maybe some others? 
 
Mono? 
 
No no!</div> 
 
It's what YOU believe. But until you PROVE that he didn't have mononucleosis or traces of it in his system, then your posts and all these threads relating to the subject are pure baloney! 
Prove it first. That's what I ask of you. Prove that he didn't have mono. THEN you can post as many laughing and smiling emotion icons as you please and I'll do the same. </td><tr><td
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">SAMPRAS_fan - 9/11/2008 7:44 PM 
 
and this roger has the gall to laugh along with Roddick concerning NOVAK"S medical time outs..........</div> 
 
Yeah, I thought THAT was a bit catty, like a gossip queen smarming over a prom queens smudged lippy. 
 
Fact is, Wodger must detest Ancic round about now, cos po' Mario has it bad and a potentially excellent career is in ruins because of Mono, which has TERRIBLE side effects and can't be shrugged off
like a common cold. And because of Ancic we all know what Mono REALLY does. 
 
Ever try running off a broken leg? THAT'S Mono! </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0'
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">SAMPRAS_fan - 9/11/2008 1:44 PM 
 
and this roger has the gall to laugh along with Roddick concerning NOVAK"S medical time outs..........</div> 
 
Go prove he didn't have it Sampras_fan. Just because he won the USO doesn't mean he doesn't still have mono. </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 1:51 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">SAMPRAS_fan - 9/11/2008 7:44 PM 
 
and this roger has the gall to laugh along with Roddick concerning NOVAK"S medical time outs..........</div> 
 
Yeah, I thought THAT was a bit catty, like a gossip queen smarming over a prom queens smudged lippy. 
 
Fact is, Wodger must detest Ancic round about now, cos po' Mario has it bad and a potentially excellent career is in ruins because of Mono, which has TERRIBLE side effects and can't be shrugged off
like a common cold. And because of Ancic we all know what Mono REALLY does. 
 
Ever try running off a broken leg? THAT'S Mono!</div> 
 
Henin had mono too correct? She won Slams. Ancic had mono too, he played the FO and Wimbledon just fine. His condition is worse, his is recurring. Federer's case is not as bad by the looks of
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class='messagemiddle'> As the world know Federer contracting mononucleosis(and was well-publicized) this year and it was affecting his game, only mikeone and Pete are in denial. 
 
Here's a few examples..…. 
<a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/07/sports/arena.php" target="_blank"
title="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/07/sports/arena.php">http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/07/sports/arena.php</a> 
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/sports/tennis/08tennis.html" target="_blank"
title="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/sports/tennis/08tennis.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/sports/tennis/08tennis.html</a> 
<a href="http://www.bumeral.net/blog/2008/04...-with-mononucleosis-federer-suffered-illness/" target="_blank"
title="http://www.bumeral.net/blog/2008/04...-with-mononucleosis-federer-suffered-illness/">http://www.bumeral.net/blog/2008/04/08/roger-federer-sick-with-mono...</a> 
<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=3282485" target="_blank"
title="http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=3282485">http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=3282485</a> 
<a href="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23526713/" target="_blank" title="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23526713/">http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23526713/</a> 
<a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=txfederermono&prov=st&type=lgns" target="_blank"
title="http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=txfederermono&prov=st&type=lgns">http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=txfederermono&prov=st&type=lg...</a> 
 
Who should we believe? The fake god - Mikeone, Pete and S_fan? Or Federer and his doctor? ----- MatchPt </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap
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-- when DAVID NALBANDIAN is injured or ill or had his family threatened with kidnapping -- do WE DEMAND PROOF straight from his DOCTOR? 
 
when MONOFIED roger claims he had mono - do we DEMAND proof from HISdoctor? 
 
when ANCIC had mono do we DEMAND proof from HIS doctor? 
 
 
NO 
 
 
BUT HERE is the difference. 
 
 
when someone CLAIMS he had mono but PLAYS like SUPERMAN before he gets BEATEN -- and CLAIMS "i am as strong as ever"......and THEN UNWRAPS his "mono" as soon as he is beaten - 
 
 
it is NOT fodder for TRUST! </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%'><tr><td nowrap><a
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class='messagemiddle'> Dearie me, MatchPt, you quote the press? New York Times article says Federer "might" have had Mono. 
 
I don't believe him. Nor do I believe his "doctor" 
 
He showed absolutely NO effects (or side effects) of Mono and missed nary a beat in his season. 
 
Fella felt the heat, is all. An attack of the vapours.... </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap class='messagefooter'><table cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0'
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Fella felt the heat, is all. An attack of the vapours....</div> 
 
 
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 11:12 AM 
 
Dearie me, MatchPt, you quote the press? New York Times article says Federer "might" have had Mono. 
 
I don't believe him. Nor do I believe his "doctor" 
 
He showed absolutely NO effects (or side effects) of Mono and missed nary a beat in his season. 
 
Fella felt the heat, is all. An attack of the vapours....</div> 
 
But overwhelmingly more people agree Federer was suffering from mono. Your opinion only count one. 
 
You said he showed absolutely no effects? Not from 99.9% of the people's point of view. ----- MatchPt </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">SAMPRAS_fan - 9/11/2008 2:08 PM 
 
kowarrior -- when DAVID NALBANDIAN is injured or ill or had his family threatened with kidnapping -- do WE DEMAND PROOF straight from his DOCTOR? 
 
when MONOFIED roger claims he had mono - do we DEMAND proof from HISdoctor? 
 
when ANCIC had mono do we DEMAND proof from HIS doctor? 
 
 
NO 
 
 
BUT HERE is the difference. 
 
 
when someone CLAIMS he had mono but PLAYS like SUPERMAN before he gets BEATEN -- and CLAIMS "i am as strong as ever"......and THEN UNWRAPS his "mono" as soon as he is beaten - 
 
 
it is NOT fodder for TRUST!</div> 
 
Don't give me that, Sampras_fan. When Federer was losing to Gilles Simon, went life and death with Ginepri and lost to Karlovic the next day then lost to James Blake, even YOU weren't suddenly
doubting his mono. You and Kieran are doubting his mono now because he finally WON a tournament of significance. 
But that still doesn't mean that his small case of mono isn't still there. If Federer had lost the USO, this thread about his mono would not have been made. </td><tr><td class='messagefooter'
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">MatchPt - 9/11/2008 8:16 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 11:12 AM 
 
Dearie me, MatchPt, you quote the press? New York Times article says Federer "might" have had Mono. 
 
I don't believe him. Nor do I believe his "doctor" 
 
He showed absolutely NO effects (or side effects) of Mono and missed nary a beat in his season. 
 
Fella felt the heat, is all. An attack of the vapours....</div> 
 
But overwhelmingly more people agree Federer was suffering from mono. Your opinion only count one. 
 
You said he showed absolutely no effects? Not from 99.9% of the people's point of view.</div> 
 
99% of people where? 
 
I dunno anyone who believes he had it. 
 
99% of people on this board? 
 
99% of people on www.rogerfederer.com? 
 
In WHAT reality are 99% of people so easily fooled? Communist China? 
 
Where, buddy, where? <img align='middle' src='http://www.tennis.com/messageboard/images/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif'> </td><tr><td class='messagefooter' style='height:20px'> </td><td nowrap
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<div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 11:12 AM 
 
Dearie me, MatchPt, you quote the press? New York Times article says Federer "might" have had Mono. 
 
I don't believe him. Nor do I believe his "doctor" 
 
He showed absolutely NO effects (or side effects) of Mono and missed nary a beat in his season. 
 
Fella felt the heat, is all. An attack of the vapours....</div> 
 
But overwhelmingly more people agree Federer was suffering from mono. Your opinion only count one. 
 
You said he showed absolutely no effects? Not from 99.9% of the people's point of view.</div> 
 
Where do you get 'overwhelmingly' and '99%' from? Maybe in your circle of friends the percentage is that high, but the question all year (even among some fedfans) at the tennis clubs on
the courts: Do you think he REALLY has mono? Some think yes, some think no and many are just not sure. Your group of friends either had the doctor's report right in front of them, or you just talk
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 2:22 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">MatchPt - 9/11/2008 8:16 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 11:12 AM 
 
Dearie me, MatchPt, you quote the press? New York Times article says Federer "might" have had Mono. 
 
I don't believe him. Nor do I believe his "doctor" 
 
He showed absolutely NO effects (or side effects) of Mono and missed nary a beat in his season. 
 
Fella felt the heat, is all. An attack of the vapours....</div> 
 
But overwhelmingly more people agree Federer was suffering from mono. Your opinion only count one. 
 
You said he showed absolutely no effects? Not from 99.9% of the people's point of view.</div> 
 
99% of people where? 
 
I dunno anyone who believes he had it. 
 
99% of people on this board? 
 
99% of people on www.rogerfederer.com? 
 
In WHAT reality are 99% of people so easily fooled? Communist China? 
 
Where, buddy, where? :roll:</div> 
 
 
<img align='middle' src='http://www.tennis.com/messageboard/images/emoticons/icon_lol.gif'> ----- Mike's compilation of gems: 
 
Tennis2006: "Hewitt better than Agassi" 
TheLogo: "Karlovic would EASILY have been a dominant force in 90s" 
FedRus: "Sampras was the most ill player I'd ever seen. His tongue licking-between teeth on closeups made me puke if I was eating. ABSOLUTELY THE MOST DISCUSTING HUMAN BEING ON THE TENNIS PLANTED
BACK THEN !!!!!!!!!!!" 
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cyBorg: "Sampras is 9th in GOAT list" 
Huntingyou: "Federer would beat Sampras at Wimbledon 1,1,1, and i'm being nice" * 
 
* Pete at 36 
 
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 11:22 AM 
 
<div class="quotation">MatchPt - 9/11/2008 8:16 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">Kieran - 9/11/2008 11:12 AM 
 
Dearie me, MatchPt, you quote the press? New York Times article says Federer "might" have had Mono. 
 
I don't believe him. Nor do I believe his "doctor" 
 
He showed absolutely NO effects (or side effects) of Mono and missed nary a beat in his season. 
 
Fella felt the heat, is all. An attack of the vapours....</div> 
 
But overwhelmingly more people agree Federer was suffering from mono. Your opinion only count one. 
 
You said he showed absolutely no effects? Not from 99.9% of the people's point of view.</div> 
 
99% of people where? 
 
I dunno anyone who believes he had it. 
 
99% of people on this board? 
 
99% of people on www.rogerfederer.com? 
 
In WHAT reality are 99% of people so easily fooled? Communist China? 
 
Where, buddy, where? :roll:</div> 
 
 
Given from the sources(internet) we can all access, I see most articles are about Federer suffering from mono. Still 99.99% of the people would believe his doctor than you(no
hard feeling). 
 
Do you see any article published about Federer's mono is a lie? 
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">kowarrior - 9/11/2008 2:17 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">SAMPRAS_fan - 9/11/2008 2:08 PM 
 
kowarrior -- when DAVID NALBANDIAN is injured or ill or had his family threatened with kidnapping -- do WE DEMAND PROOF straight from his DOCTOR? 
 
when MONOFIED roger claims he had mono - do we DEMAND proof from HISdoctor? 
 
when ANCIC had mono do we DEMAND proof from HIS doctor? 
 
 
NO 
 
 
BUT HERE is the difference. 
 
 
when someone CLAIMS he had mono but PLAYS like SUPERMAN before he gets BEATEN -- and CLAIMS "i am as strong as ever"......and THEN UNWRAPS his "mono" as soon as he is beaten - 
 
 
it is NOT fodder for TRUST!</div> 
 
Don't give me that, Sampras_fan. When Federer was losing to Gilles Simon, went life and death with Ginepri and lost to Karlovic the next day then lost to James Blake, even YOU weren't suddenly
doubting his mono. You and Kieran are doubting his mono now because he finally WON a tournament of significance. 
But that still doesn't mean that his small case of mono isn't still there. If Federer had lost the USO, this thread about his mono would not have been made.</div> 
 
 
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 
 
If he had lost at USO, THE MONO thing would've been used as an excuse and it would've been a freaking joke. He wins and now he's 'healthy' 
 
it's laughable.. 
 
NO-ONE iwth Mono can play 5 set match, then right after the freaking match, go workout! and then come back and win his next two matches in straight sets. 
 
NO-ONE CAN DO THIS, IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE! 
 
unless Roger Federer is SUPERMAN and immortal 
 
 
He ran into a mental slump this year. His loss to Novak got to him. It had nothing to do with Novak. The evidence suggests it was a mental rollercoaste, no physical. 
 
Use your breain kowarrior. How the hell can Federer have MONO at AO, play a 5 setter, go workout, come right back and win matches.... then at clay court season, feel 100% again, just in time for FO
where he was motivated, do GREAT in clay court season, great on grass.... then after losing to Rafa, he gets Mono again... and then mono is the reason he loses to Simon? Karlovic? then at USO, mono is
gone, he wins. Then i bet if loses at Madrid or Paris or EOY masters cup, MONO AGAIN? are we gonna keep playing this freaking game for years now? LOL! 
 
 ----- Mike's compilation of gems: 
 
Tennis2006: "Hewitt better than Agassi" 
TheLogo: "Karlovic would EASILY have been a dominant force in 90s" 
FedRus: "Sampras was the most ill player I'd ever seen. His tongue licking-between teeth on closeups made me puke if I was eating. ABSOLUTELY THE MOST DISCUSTING HUMAN BEING ON THE TENNIS PLANTED
BACK THEN !!!!!!!!!!!" 
OOCC: "A service winner can only be an ace" 
cyBorg: "Sampras is 9th in GOAT list" 
Huntingyou: "Federer would beat Sampras at Wimbledon 1,1,1, and i'm being nice" * 
 
* Pete at 36 
 
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class='messagemiddle'> <div class="quotation">MikeOne - 9/11/2008 2:34 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">kowarrior - 9/11/2008 2:17 PM 
 
<div class="quotation">SAMPRAS_fan - 9/11/2008 2:08 PM 
 
kowarrior -- when DAVID NALBANDIAN is injured or ill or had his family threatened with kidnapping -- do WE DEMAND PROOF straight from his DOCTOR? 
 
when MONOFIED roger claims he had mono - do we DEMAND proof from HISdoctor? 
 
when ANCIC had mono do we DEMAND proof from HIS doctor? 
 
 
NO 
 
 
BUT HERE is the difference. 
 
 
when someone CLAIMS he had mono but PLAYS like SUPERMAN before he gets BEATEN -- and CLAIMS "i am as strong as ever"......and THEN UNWRAPS his "mono" as soon as he is beaten - 
 
 
it is NOT fodder for TRUST!</div> 
 
Don't give me that, Sampras_fan. When Federer was losing to Gilles Simon, went life and death with Ginepri and lost to Karlovic the next day then lost to James Blake, even YOU weren't suddenly
doubting his mono. You and Kieran are doubting his mono now because he finally WON a tournament of significance. 
But that still doesn't mean that his small case of mono isn't still there. If Federer had lost the USO, this thread about his mono would not have been made.</div> 
 
 
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? 
 
If he had lost at USO, THE MONO thing would've been used as an excuse and it would've been a freaking joke. He wins and now he's 'healthy' 
 
it's laughable.. 
 
NO-ONE iwth Mono can play 5 set match, then right after the freaking match, go workout! and then come back and win his next two matches in straight sets. 
 
NO-ONE CAN DO THIS, IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE! 
 
unless Roger Federer is SUPERMAN and immortal 
 
 
He ran into a mental slump this year. His loss to Novak got to him. It had nothing to do with Novak. The evidence suggests it was a mental rollercoaste, no physical. 
 
Use your breain kowarrior. How the hell can Federer have MONO at AO, play a 5 setter, go workout, come right back and win matches.... then at clay court season, feel 100% again, just in time for FO
where he was motivated, do GREAT in clay court season, great on grass.... then after losing to Rafa, he gets Mono again... and then mono is the reason he loses to Simon? Karlovic? then at USO, mono is
gone, he wins. Then i bet if loses at Madrid or Paris or EOY masters cup, MONO AGAIN? are we gonna keep playing this freaking game for years now? LOL! 
 
</div> 
 
Oh really? I recall Ancic doing pretty damn well at Wimbledon, taking down world number 4 at the time David Ferrer in a 5 set war and still being ALIVE at the end of it. <img align='middle'
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class='messagemiddle'> So, let's summarize: 1. Start of year - MONO 2. His first 3 matches of AO - 100% HEALTHY 3. 5 sets to Tipseravic (even
though he even had energy to workout afterwards)- MONO 4. wins in straight sets vs Blake and Berdych - 100% HEALTHY 5. Loses to Novak next round - MONO 6. Loses to Murray, Fish,
Roddick - MONO 7. Wins Estoril & makes final of Monte Carlo - 100% healthy 9. Loses to Stepanek at Rome - MONO 10. Makes final of Hamburg and FO - 100% HEALTHY 11. Gets
humiliated in finals of FO - MONO 12. Wins Halle - 100% HEALTHY 13. Makes it to finals of Wimbledon without dropping a set - 100% HEALTHY 14. Loses to Nadal in finals - MONO 15.
loses to Karlovic, Simon at Toronto and Cincy - MONO 16. Makes a good run at Olympics - 100% healthy 17. Loses to Blake - MONO 18. Wins first few rounds of USO easily - 100% HEALTHY 19. Goes to 5 sets vs Andreev - MONO 20. Beats Novak and Murray and wins USO - 100% HEALTHY LOL! <img align='middle'
src='http://www.tennis.com/messageboard/images/emoticons/icon_lol.gif'> :lol: <img align='middle' src='http://www.tennis.com/messageboard/images/emoticons/icon_lol.gif'> :lol: WHAT'S
NEXT???? I CAN'T WAIT! THE DRAMA IS SO INTENSE! absolutely ZERO credit is given to players like Nadal and Djokovic and NEVER, is a mental slump contemplated.. IT CAN ONLY BE MONO! Give me a FRIGGIN BREAK you clowns Edited by MikeOne 9/11/2008 11:45 AM 
 ----- Mike's compilation of gems: 
 
Tennis2006: "Hewitt better than Agassi" 
TheLogo: "Karlovic would EASILY have been a dominant force in 90s" 
FedRus: "Sampras was the most ill player I'd ever seen. His tongue licking-between teeth on closeups made me puke if I was eating. ABSOLUTELY THE MOST DISCUSTING HUMAN BEING ON THE TENNIS PLANTED
BACK THEN !!!!!!!!!!!" 
OOCC: "A service winner can only be an ace" 
cyBorg: "Sampras is 9th in GOAT list" 
Huntingyou: "Federer would beat Sampras at Wimbledon 1,1,1, and i'm being nice" * 
 
* Pete at 36 
 
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1. Why did he say that he has had mono since 2006? What does this mean?
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5. We all see how Ancic has been affected by Mono, the guy has had to stop playing tennis for a long time but Federer is able to play 5 set battle against Tipseravic and then, right after the match,
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6. He then suffers a few losses, after losing to Novak and 'mono' is the excuse again. Why can't it just be a confidence thing after losing to Novak? Can Roger never run into a mental slump? just
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7. He then all off sudden, AS I FORETOLD, gets it together for clay court season and is remarkably at 100% just in time for FO? He made finals of Rome, Hamburg and finals of FO... on clay, where
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8. He then played what could've been his best tennis ever at Wimbledon, breezing through all his matches leading into final, but then lost in finals and 'mono' talks resumed. So he's at 100% until
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so many good questions above, and below here is a poll to see what you guys think
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We all know he claims he was diagnosed with mononucleosis and he claims was a factor early in the year. I have questions.
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The Greg Maddux of posters once again with highly inteelectual qustions fo the masses.....
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1. Why did he say that he has had mono since 2006? What does this mean?
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Yes what does it mean??? Enlighten us federphiles.
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2. Why did he say he felt 100% and was feeling so great in the first few rounds when he was killing everyone at AO?
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3. Why did Santoro say "he's moving better than ever and playing better than ever" after he lost to Roger at AO if Roger was ILL?
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Yes Tennis2006 why????
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4. Why did Federer ONLY suffer effects of Mono after he got taken to 5 sets by Tipseravic and later beaten by Djokovic but not when he won his first few matches where he stated he was at 100%? Is this
a case of "When i win, i'm 100% but if i lose, i will use mono as an excuse??"
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Again... Federphiles????
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5. We all see how Ancic has been affected by Mono, the guy has had to stop playing tennis for a long time but Federer is able to play 5 set battle against Tipseravic and the right after the match, go
work out? and then come back and win his next two matches in straight sets? How can a guy with mono be able to do this?
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Yes how can he???? Inquiring minds would like to know.
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6. He then suffers a few losses, after losing to Novak and 'mono' is the excuse again. Why can't it just be a confidence thing after losing to Novak?
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7. He then all off sudden, AS I FORETOLD, gets it together for clay court season and is remarkably at 100% just in time for FO? He made finals of Rome, Hamburg and finals of FO... on clay, where
points ar slowest. So, he just happened to get better just in time for clay court season? Or this simply a case of Roger losing earlier, cause he lost confidence, and then getting motivated for FO and
kicking butt? proving he never really as affected by Mono?
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Wasn't he constantly going up a break and the double breaks vs Nadal??? So the mono only kicked in after he lost the leads????
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8. He then is playing his best tennis ever at Wimbledon, breezing through all his matches leading into final, but then loses and 'mono' talks resume. So he's at 100% until final ad then 'mono' creeps
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Yes how did Fed get to the final only dropping a set along the way, while only getting broken twice???
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so many good questions above, and below here is a poll to see what you guys think
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You mean the one who diagnsed the recurring version that kept creeping up after losses???
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Mikeone, you beat me to it! I was gonna run a "did he, didn't he?" poll on this because, frankly, I believe it's all baloney. A dress rehearsal for his decline.
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I don't blame the guy for feeling pressure of being number one, as he said himself, he had a monster on his back. But why didn't he just fess up? Why not simply come clean and place his own
victories in context so that then we could all agree, he been winning a lot but it could never last so long as Rafa was going to peak...followed by Novak and maybe some others?
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Mono?
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It's what YOU believe. But until you PROVE that he didn't have mononucleosis or traces of it in his system, then your posts and all these threads relating to the subject are pure baloney!
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Prove it first. That's what I ask of you. Prove that he didn't have mono. THEN you can post as many laughing and smiling emotion icons as you please and I'll do the same.
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and this roger has the gall to laugh along with Roddick concerning NOVAK"S medical time outs..........
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Ever try running off a broken leg? THAT'S Mono!
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and this roger has the gall to laugh along with Roddick concerning NOVAK"S medical time outs..........
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Go prove he didn't have it Sampras_fan. Just because he won the USO doesn't mean he doesn't still have mono.
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and this roger has the gall to laugh along with Roddick concerning NOVAK"S medical time outs..........
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Yeah, I thought THAT was a bit catty, like a gossip queen smarming over a prom queens smudged lippy.
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Fact is, Wodger must detest Ancic round about now, cos po' Mario has it bad and a potentially excellent career is in ruins because of Mono, which has TERRIBLE side effects and can't be shrugged off
like a common cold. And because of Ancic we all know what Mono REALLY does.
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Ever try running off a broken leg? THAT'S Mono!
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Henin had mono too correct? She won Slams. Ancic had mono too, he played the FO and Wimbledon just fine. His condition is worse, his is recurring. Federer's case is not as bad by the looks of it.
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when MONOFIED roger claims he had mono - do we DEMAND proof from HISdoctor?
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when ANCIC had mono do we DEMAND proof from HIS doctor?
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BUT HERE is the difference.
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kowarrior -- when DAVID NALBANDIAN is injured or ill or had his family threatened with kidnapping -- do WE DEMAND PROOF straight from his DOCTOR?
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when MONOFIED roger claims he had mono - do we DEMAND proof from HISdoctor?
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when ANCIC had mono do we DEMAND proof from HIS doctor?
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when someone CLAIMS he had mono but PLAYS like SUPERMAN before he gets BEATEN -- and CLAIMS "i am as strong as ever"......and THEN UNWRAPS his "mono" as soon as he is beaten -
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Don't give me that, Sampras_fan. When Federer was losing to Gilles Simon, went life and death with Ginepri and lost to Karlovic the next day then lost to James Blake, even YOU weren't suddenly
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But that still doesn't mean that his small case of mono isn't still there. If Federer had lost the USO, this thread about his mono would not have been made.
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Dearie me, MatchPt, you quote the press? New York Times article says Federer "might" have had Mono.
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Where, buddy, where?
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Where do you get 'overwhelmingly' and '99%' from? Maybe in your circle of friends the percentage is that high, but the question all year
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kowarrior -- when DAVID NALBANDIAN is injured or ill or had his family threatened with kidnapping -- do WE DEMAND PROOF straight from his DOCTOR?
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when ANCIC had mono do we DEMAND proof from HIS doctor?
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when someone CLAIMS he had mono but PLAYS like SUPERMAN before he gets BEATEN -- and CLAIMS "i am as strong as ever"......and THEN UNWRAPS his "mono" as soon as he is beaten -
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Don't give me that, Sampras_fan. When Federer was losing to Gilles Simon, went life and death with Ginepri and lost to Karlovic the next day then lost to James Blake, even YOU weren't suddenly
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He ran into a mental slump this year. His loss to Novak got to him. It had nothing to do with Novak. The evidence suggests it was a mental rollercoaste, no physical.
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BUT HERE is the difference.
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when someone CLAIMS he had mono but PLAYS like SUPERMAN before he gets BEATEN -- and CLAIMS "i am as strong as ever"......and THEN UNWRAPS his "mono" as soon as he is beaten -
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Oh really? I recall Ancic doing pretty damn well at Wimbledon, taking down world number 4 at the time David Ferrer in a 5 set war and still being ALIVE at the end of it.
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--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: Fantasy
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: ----------------------
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 12
--------------------
char _: + ATP Fantasy Tennis
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: Your Game
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: ----------------------
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 3
--------------------
char _: + Instruction
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 11
--------------------
char _: + Fitness
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 10
--------------------
char _: + Gear
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: General Discussion
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: ----------------------
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 13
--------------------
char _: + New Member Introductions
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 4
--------------------
char _: + Media Discussion
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 5
--------------------
char _: + Off Topic
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: Message Board News & Live Chats
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = -1
--------------------
char _: ----------------------
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
start _: option
value = 6
--------------------
char _: + Live Chats & Events
--------------------
end _: /option
--------------------
end _: /select
--------------------
char _:
--------------------
start _: input
type = submit
class = bbsbutton
value = Go
--------------------
end _: /form
--------------------
start _: a
href = printer-friendly.asp?tid=10716&mid=
--------------------
char _: Printer friendly version
--------------------
end _: /a
--------------------
start _: br
--------------------
end _: /br
--------------------
start _: a
href = email-link.asp?tid=10716
--------------------
char _: E-mail a link to this thread
--------------------
end _: /a
--------------------
start _: br
--------------------
end _: /br
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
start _: td
align = right
--------------------
start _: table
class = bbstable
cellspacing = 1
--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
start _: td
class = messagecellheader2
--------------------
char _: Actions
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
start _: td
nowrap = UNDEF_ATTRVAL
align = right
class = messagecellbody
--------------------
start _: span
class = smalltext
--------------------
start _: a
href = /messageboard/forums/notification-toggle.asp?tid=10716&redirect=%2Fmessageboard%2Fthread%2Dview%2Easp%3Ftid%3D10716%26posts%3D56%26start%3D1
--------------------
char _: Toggle e-mail notification
--------------------
end _: /a
--------------------
start _: br
--------------------
end _: /br
--------------------
end _: /span
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
end _: /table
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
end _: /table
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /table
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: td
width = 180
class = right_column
valign = top
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: Ad 160x600
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: table
cellpadding = 0
cellspacing = 0
align = center
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: td
height = 4
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: td
height = 15
class = ad_header
align = center
--------------------
start _: img
src = /images/main/ad_header.gif
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: td
height = 600
align = center
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: SCRIPT
--------------------
char _:
document.write('<scr' + 'ipt src=http://ad.doubleclick.net/adj/tenni..._board;site=;chan=;kw=;sz=160x600;tile=2;ord=' + random_number +
'></scr' + 'ipt>');

--------------------
end _: /SCRIPT
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: NOSCRIPT
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: A
HREF = http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/tenn...n=;kw=;sz=160x600;tile=2;ord='+random_number+'
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: IMG
SRC = http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/tennis...n=;kw=;sz=160x600;tile=2;ord='+random_number+'
border = 0
height = 600
width = 160
--------------------
end _: /A
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /NOSCRIPT
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: td
height = 4
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: START NetRatings Measurement V5.1
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: COPYRIGHT 2003 NetRatings Limited
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: script
language = JavaScript
type = text/javascript
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _:
var _rsCI="us-blackrockent";
var _rsCG="tennis";
var _rsDT=0;
var _rsDU=1;
var _rsDO=0;
var _rsX6=0;
var _rsSI=escape(window.location);
var _rsLP=location.protocol.indexOf('https')>-1?'https:':'http:';
var _rsRP=escape(document.referrer);
var _rsND=_rsLP+'//secure-us.imrworldwide.com/';

if (parseInt(navigator.appVersion)>=4)
{
var _rsRD=(new Date()).getTime();
var _rsSE=0;
var _rsSV="";
var _rsSM=0;
_rsCL='<scr'+'ipt language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript" src="'+_rsND+'v51.js"><\/scr'+'ipt>';
}
else
{
_rsCL='<img src="'+_rsND+'cgi-bin/m?ci='+_rsCI+'&cg='+_rsCG+'&si='+_rsSI+'&rp='+_rsRP+'">';
}
document.write(_rsCL);
//
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /script
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: noscript
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: img
src = //secure-us.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/m?ci=us-blackrockent&cg=tennis
alt =
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /noscript
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: END RedMeasure V5.1
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: Google Analytics
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: script
type = text/javascript
--------------------
char _:
var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www.");
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));

--------------------
end _: /script
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: script
type = text/javascript
--------------------
char _:
var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-4667236-1");
pageTracker._initData();
pageTracker._trackPageview();

--------------------
end _: /script
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: End Google Analytics
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: Start Quantcast tag
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: script
type = text/javascript
src = http://edge.quantserve.com/quant.js
--------------------
end _: /script
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: script
type = text/javascript
--------------------
char _: _qacct="p-73Wn273O89few";quantserve();
--------------------
end _: /script
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: noscript
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
start _: a
href = http://www.quantcast.com/p-73Wn273O89few
target = _blank
--------------------
start _: img
src = http://pixel.quantserve.com/pixel/p-73Wn273O89few.gif
style = display: none;
border = 0
height = 1
width = 1
alt = Quantcast
--------------------
end _: /img
--------------------
end _: /a
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /noscript
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
comnt _: End Quantcast tag
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /table
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
char _:

--------------------
end _: /table
--------------------
start _: a
name = bottom
--------------------
end _: /a
--------------------
start _: table
width = 954
height = 58
cellspacing = 0
cellpadding = 0
--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
start _: td
class = footer
style = padding-left: 6px; padding-top: 3px
--------------------
char _: (
--------------------
start _: a
href = /messageboard/delete-cookies.asp
--------------------
char _: Delete all cookies set by this site
--------------------
end _: /a
--------------------
char _: )
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
start _: td
align = right
class = footer
style = padding-right: 6px; padding-top: 3px
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
end _: /tr
--------------------
start _: tr
--------------------
start _: td
height = 35
class = footer
colspan = 2
align = center
valign = center
--------------------
char _: © 2008 TENNIS.com. All Rights Reserved.
--------------------
end _: /td
--------------------
end _: /tr

sln · Sep 20, 2008

I have absolutely no idea what what you mean by this. Not only is "real"
not well defined but why would snybody even think about a language
("HyperText Markup _LANGUAGE_") being an expression?

Do you even know what a regular language is and what properties are
associated with being a regular language resp. what properties are
assiciated with _NOT_ being a regular language?

Oh, that answers that question. Obviously you are unaware that only
regular languages can be parsed by (ordinary) regular expressions which
have the same expressiveness as regular grammars and finite automatons.

To parse context-sensitive languages you need at least a
non-deterministic pushdown automaton which in turn cannot be described
using regular expressions.

If you don't believe me then please re-read your books about Theory of
Programming Languages, chapter The Chomsky Hierarchy.

Now, Perl's REs are far more powerful than ordinary regular expressions,
so they might be powerful enough to parse context-sensitive languages.
But it's still a stupid thing to do. A simple parser is far easier to
write and to maintain than a gigantic mess of REs.

That's your call, not mine.

What does it matter? They parse HTML and thus solve the task at hand.
Correctly!

Oh, then by all means, please publish your findings. Contradicting
Chomsky is worth at least a Ph.D.

jue

Yeah, right, whatever you say jue.
See the Tad Macllelan reply for some really waste my time stuff I don't wan't
to repost for you !

sln

Jürgen Exner · Sep 20, 2008

See the Tad Macllelan reply for some really waste my time stuff I don't wan't
to repost for you !

Indeed, Tad summed it up much more concise than I did.

jue

sln · Sep 20, 2008

Indeed, Tad summed it up much more concise than I did.

jue

Unfortunately, your both in the same boat then.
No offence.

sln

Tad J McClellan · Sep 20, 2008

My friends would call you an "utter, and complete idiot", but I won't.

Then your friends don't know enough about language theory to be
taken seriously either.

I'm releasing a version 2 of my stuff.

Post it to rec.humor.funny where it belongs.

You live in a fantacy world, and have no knowledge of what markup is.

Right.

The XML FAQ accepts lots of answers from people who have no knowledge.

Jürgen Exner · Sep 21, 2008

My friends would call you an "utter, and complete idiot", but I won't.

I don't need imaginary friends, I simply do call you ignorant. That in
itself can be changed if a person is willing to learn. Unfortunately I
don't see any signs of that happening.

I'm releasing a version 2 of my stuff. And its loaded. You would have
to write Perl interface just to simplify all the low level tools added.

So what?

The engine has been re-written.

So what?

It does any markup.

Great for you. But what does that have to do with context-sensitive
languages and regular parsers?

Traps errors better than,
well... better than any parser that ever was.

So what?

Parsing markup is the easiest thing in
the world to do.

Maybe, but so what?

Trapping errors isin't so easy. My Perl regular expression engine is the
best in the world, its better than C based code, much better.

Then maybe you can submit it to replace the existing RE engine in perl?

You live in a fantacy world, and have no knowledge of what markup is. Only in the vaguest
sence.

Its not Parsing I am promoting, my power is in my parsing. I am promoting my tools and
nothing else.

So what?

And I have some very powerful tools I am introducing in version 2.

So what?

WHAT, YOU WANT TO PARSE HTML WITH THE SIMPLEST REGULAR EXPRESSION ???????
Simple, and stupid, and the most basic!!!!

Not possible. As has been _PROVEN_ in the past 4 decades many times over
you cannot parse a context-sensitive language with regular expressions.
If a language can be parsed with REs then it is a regular language. If
it is not a regular language, then it cannot be parsed with RE.
That's where the name regular expression originates.

If you want to disprove Chomsky then please go ahead. If you succeed
then the Turing Award is within your reach.

I was hoping not to have to do this. There unique examples of the power in the
tools when I post version 2. Posted below is just simple regular expression.

And where is the computational logic that implements the
context-sensitive part of the parser?

Why do you even try to test me? What are you afraid of?

sln/aka ROBIC0

robic0, robic0, .... somehow that rings a bell. Indeed, there was that
troll who infested this NG a few years ago:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=robic0+and+PLONK&as_ugroup=comp.lang.perl.misc

I thought I smelled the same stench of clueless ignorance again.

*PLONK*

jue

sln · Sep 21, 2008

So what?

maybe I should have put an 'S' on the end of this

Not possible. As has been _PROVEN_ in the past 4 decades many times over
you cannot parse a context-sensitive language with regular expressions.
If a language can be parsed with REs then it is a regular language. If
it is not a regular language, then it cannot be parsed with RE.
That's where the name regular expression originates.

robic0, robic0, .... somehow that rings a bell. Indeed, there was that
troll who infested this NG a few years ago:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=robic0+and+PLONK&as_ugroup=comp.lang.perl.misc

I thought I smelled the same stench of clueless ignorance again.

*PLONK*

jue

You are indeed an utter, and complete moron!

sln

Henry Law · Sep 23, 2008

Unfortunately, your both in the same boat then.

s/your/you're/

No offence.

Funny how people write that when they've deliberately offended.

Henry Law · Sep 23, 2008

Why do you even try to test me? What are you afraid of?

sln/aka ROBIC0

.... and then hundreds of lines of stuff ...

ROBIC0? All is clear now.

sln · Oct 2, 2008

Hi,
I am parsing an .HTML file that contains following example code:

<div>
Normal Text Arial 12
Black before bullets.
<ul>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet1: If you want to convert bitmap
images Single Line.</li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet2: D you want to convert 
Times New
Roman Bold Red 13 like BMP, JPG?</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet3 bold:
 If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG
</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4 bold 14: 
If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG 2
lines.</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4
bold 14 all Red: If you
want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG.</li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4 bold 14 Black: 
Blue If you want to convert bitmap. 
Green 16 images like BMP, JPG.
</li>
</ul>
Normal
Text Red Arial 14 after bullets.

I am trying to parse all the , <ol> and <ul> tags but couldn't
succeed yet.
I am trying following Regular Expression(RE):
"(<[pP][^>]*>(.*)</[pP]>)|(<[oO][lL][^>]+>(.*)</[oO][lL]>)|(<[uU][lL]
[^>]+>(.*)</[uU][lL]>)"

I am using preg_match_all(). Remember I am working in PHP.
If any one can help me, I will be very grateful to him/her. I need its
solution urgent.

Couple of solutions. This module shown here is not out yet.
When it is, it can not only get what you need quickly but you can edit
and reconstruct it to a file. Its also a quick way to chop up code source
and can be passed to xml-simple.

Using your source html, here is some sample code and output.
There are three samples separated by ###'s.

sln

############################################################################
# Capture form: 'p', 'ol' or 'ul' tag is buffer: <tag> tag_data </tag>
# Use sequence to reconstruct original source
# ---------------------------------------------

use strict;
use warnings;

use RXParse; # VERSIN 2

my $p = new RXParse();

$p->setMode( 'html' => 1, 'resume_onerror'=> 1 );

my $fname = 'c:\temp\newsgrp.xml';
open my $fh_xml, $fname or die "can't open $fname...";

my %oldh = $p->setHandlers('start' => \&starth, 'end' => \&endh);

sub starth
{
my ($obj, $el, $term, @attr) = @_;
my $buffer = lc($el);
if ($buffer eq 'p' || $buffer eq 'ol' || $buffer eq 'ul')
{
$obj->CaptureOn( $buffer );
$obj->CaptureOn( $buffer."_data", 1 );
}
# optional, call old handler
$oldh{'start'}($obj, $el, $term, @attr );
}
sub endh
{
my ($obj, $el, $term) = @_;
my $buffer = lc($el);
if ($buffer eq 'p' || $buffer eq 'ol' || $buffer eq 'ul')
{
$obj->CaptureOff( $buffer."_data" );
$obj->CaptureOff( $buffer, 1 );
}
# optional, call old handler
$oldh{'end'}($obj, $el, $term );
}

$p->CaptureOn('ALL');

my $parse_ln = "";
$parse_ln = join ('', <$fh_xml>); # join file data

my $parse_errors = $p->parse(\$parse_ln); # or pass in $fh_xml

$p->CaptureOff('ALL');

$p->DumpCaptureBuffs();

close $fh_xml;

print STDERR "Parse errors = $parse_errors\n";

__END__

BUFFER: all
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 1 <div>

[1] -2
[2] 5

[3] -6
[4] 9

[5] -10
[6] 13

[7] -14
[8] 17

[9] -18
[10] 21

[11] -22
[12] 25
</div>

BUFFER: p
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 2 
[1] -3
[2] 4 
[3] 10 
[4] -11
[5] 12 
[6] 14 
[7] -15
[8] 16 
[9] 18 
[10] -19
[11] 20 
[12] 22 
[13] -23
[14] 24 

BUFFER: p_data
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 3 Normal Text Arial 12
Black before bullets.
[1] 11 Normal
Text Red Arial 14 after bullets.
[2] 15
 
[3] 19 undefined
[4] 23 undefined

BUFFER: ul
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 6 <ul>
[1] -7
[2] 8 </ul>

BUFFER: ul_data
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 7
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet1: If you want to convert bitmap
images Single Line.</li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet2: D you want to convert 
Times New
Roman Bold Red 13 like BMP, JPG?</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet3 bold:
 If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG
</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4 bold 14: 
If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG 2
lines.</li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4
bold 14 all Red: If you
want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG.</li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> Bullet4 bold 14 Black: 
Blue If you want to convert bitmap. 
Green 16 images like BMP, JPG.
</li>

##############################################################
# Capture form: tag is buffer "<tag> data </tag>"
# Use sequence to reconstruct original source
# ---------------------------------------------

use strict;
use warnings;

use RXParse; # VERSIN 2

my $p = new RXParse();

$p->setMode( 'html' => 1, 'resume_onerror'=> 1 );

my $fname = 'c:\temp\newsgrp.xml';
open my $fh_xml, $fname or die "can't open $fname...";

my %oldh = $p->setHandlers('start' => \&starth, 'end' => \&endh, 'captnotify' => \&cnotify);

my %closetags = ('br'=> '', 'img'=>'', 'meta'=>'', 'link'=> '', 'input'=>'');

sub cnotify
{
my ($obj, $buffer) = @_;
if (exists $closetags{$buffer})
{
$obj->CaptureOff( $buffer );
}
}

sub starth
{
my ($obj, $el, $term, @attr) = @_;
my $buffer = lc($el);
$obj->CaptureOn( $buffer );
# optional, call old handler
$oldh{'start'}($obj, $el, $term, @attr );
}
sub endh
{
my ($obj, $el, $term) = @_;
my $buffer = lc($el);
$obj->CaptureOff( $buffer, 1 );
# optional, call old handler
$oldh{'end'}($obj, $el, $term );
}

$p->CaptureOn('ALL');

my $parse_ln = "";
$parse_ln = join ('', <$fh_xml>); # join file data

my $parse_errors = $p->parse(\$parse_ln); # or pass in $fh_xml

$p->CaptureOff('ALL');

$p->DumpCaptureBuffs();

close $fh_xml;

print STDERR "Parse errors = $parse_errors\n";

__END__

BUFFER: all
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 1
[1] -2
[2] 59 undefined

BUFFER: ul
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 7 <ul>

[1] -8
[2] 11

[3] -12
[4] 19

[5] -20
[6] 25

[7] -26
[8] 31

[9] -32
[10] 37

[11] -38
[12] 45
</ul>

BUFFER: div
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 2 <div>

[1] -3
[2] 6

[3] -7
[4] 46

[5] -47
[6] 50

[7] -51
[8] 54

[9] -55
[10] 56

[11] -57
[12] 58
</div>

BUFFER: p
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 3 
[1] -4
[2] 5 
[3] 47 
[4] -48
[5] 49 
[6] 51 

[7] -52
[8] 53 
[9] 55 
[10] 57 

BUFFER: li
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 8 <li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> 
[1] -9
[2] 10 </li>
[3] 12 <li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> 
[4] -13
[5] 14

[6] -15
[7] 16 undefined
[8] -17
[9] 18 </li>
[10] 20 <li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> 
[11] -21
[12] 22

[13] -23
[14] 24
</li>
[15] 26 <li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> 
[16] -27
[17] 28

[18] -29
[19] 30 </li>
[20] 32 <li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> 
[21] -33
[22] 34 undefined
[23] -35
[24] 36 </li>
[25] 38 <li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left"> 
[26] -39
[27] 40

[28] -41
[29] 42

[30] -43
[31] 44
</li>

BUFFER: span
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 4 Normal Text Arial 12
Black before bullets.
[1] 9 Bullet1: If you want to convert bitmap
images Single Line.
[2] 13 Bullet2: D you want to convert 
[3] 15 Times New
Roman Bold Red 13
[4] 17 like BMP, JPG?
[5] 21 Bullet3 bold:
[6] 23 If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG
[7] 27 Bullet4 bold 14: 
[8] 29 If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG 2
lines.
[9] 33 Bullet4
bold 14 all Red: 
[10] 35 If you
want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG.
[11] 39 Bullet4 bold 14 Black: 
[12] 41 Blue If you want to convert bitmap. 
[13] 43 Green 16 images like BMP, JPG.
[14] 48 Normal
Text Red Arial 14 after bullets.
[15] 52  

##############################################################
# Capture form: data is buffer <tag> "data" </tag>
# Use sequence to reconstruct original source
# ---------------------------------------------

use strict;
use warnings;

use RXParse; # VERSIN 2

my $p = new RXParse();

$p->setMode( 'html' => 1, 'resume_onerror'=> 1 );

my $fname = 'c:\temp\newsgrp.xml';
open my $fh_xml, $fname or die "can't open $fname...";

my %oldh = $p->setHandlers('start' => \&starth, 'end' => \&endh);

my %closetags = ('br'=> '', 'img'=>'', 'meta'=>'', 'link'=> '', 'input'=>'');

sub starth
{
my ($obj, $el, $term, @attr) = @_;
my $buffer = lc($el);
if (!exists $closetags{$buffer})
{
$obj->CaptureOn( $buffer, 1 );
}
# optional, call old handler
$oldh{'start'}($obj, $el, $term, @attr );
}
sub endh
{
my ($obj, $el, $term) = @_;
my $buffer = lc($el);
$obj->CaptureOff( $buffer );
# optional, call old handler
$oldh{'end'}($obj, $el, $term );
}

$p->CaptureOn('ALL');

my $parse_ln = "";
$parse_ln = join ('', <$fh_xml>); # join file data

my $parse_errors = $p->parse(\$parse_ln); # or pass in $fh_xml

$p->CaptureOff('ALL');

$p->DumpCaptureBuffs();

close $fh_xml;

print STDERR "Parse errors = $parse_errors\n";

__END__

BUFFER: all
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 1 <div>
[1] -2
[2] 59 </div>

BUFFER: ul
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 7
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left">
[1] -8
[2] 11 </li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left">
[3] -12
[4] 19 </li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left">
[5] -20
[6] 25 </li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left">
[7] -26
[8] 31 </li>
<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left">
[9] -32
[10] 37 </li>

<li class="html_preformatted" dir="ltr" style="text-
align:left">
[11] -38
[12] 45 </li>

BUFFER: div
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 2

[1] -3
[2] 6 
<ul>
[3] -7
[4] 46 </ul>

[5] -47
[6] 50 

[7] -51
[8] 54 

[9] -55
[10] 56 

[11] -57
[12] 58 

BUFFER: p
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 3 
[1] -4
[2] 5 
[3] 47 
[4] -48
[5] 49 
[6] 51

[7] -52
[8] 53 
[9] 55 undefined
[10] 57 undefined

BUFFER: li
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 8  
[1] -9
[2] 10 
[3] 12  
[4] -13
[5] 14 

[6] -15
[7] 16 
[8] -17
[9] 18 
[10] 20  
[11] -21
[12] 22 

[13] -23
[14] 24 

[15] 26  
[16] -27
[17] 28 

[18] -29
[19] 30 
[20] 32  
[21] -33
[22] 34 
[23] -35
[24] 36 
[25] 38  
[26] -39
[27] 40 

[28] -41
[29] 42 

[30] -43
[31] 44 

BUFFER: span
=====================================
index seqence
----- --------
[0] 4 Normal Text Arial 12
Black before bullets.
[1] 9 Bullet1: If you want to convert bitmap
images Single Line.
[2] 13 Bullet2: D you want to convert
[3] 15 Times New
Roman Bold Red 13
[4] 17 like BMP, JPG?
[5] 21 Bullet3 bold:
[6] 23 If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG
[7] 27 Bullet4 bold 14:
[8] 29 If you want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG 2
lines.
[9] 33 Bullet4
bold 14 all Red:
[10] 35 If you
want to convert bitmap images like BMP, JPG.
[11] 39 Bullet4 bold 14 Black:
[12] 41 Blue If you want to convert bitmap.
[13] 43 Green 16 images like BMP, JPG.
[14] 48 Normal
Text Red Arial 14 after bullets.
[15] 52

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