Ruby Forum > Ruby Talk > comp.lang.ruby ?

[Kenneth LL]

so it seems like Google created Ruby Talk and anything posted to Ruby
Talk will post to comp.lang.ruby.

but then people replying on the comp.lang.ruby will not get the answer
through to the Ruby Talk poster...

and then, Ruby Forum is even on top of Ruby Talk and comp.lang.ruby...
so people replying in Ruby Talk or comp.lang.ruby will not get the
answer through to Ruby Forum...

So... what is the good method? Start a new post in Ruby Forum so that
it can get to the biggest audience group. But then, check answers in
all 3 places?

 

[Marc Heiler]

So... what is the good method? Start a new post in Ruby Forum so that

it can get to the biggest audience group. But then, check answers in
all 3 places?

I dont know but I rarely check on the mailing list these days with this
forum here available.

 

[Summercool]

this is replying from comp.lang.ruby
let's see where it will get to...

 

[Summercool]

this is replying from Google's Ruby Talk...
let's see where it will get to...

 

[Summercool Summercool]

Looks like

Ruby Forum > ( Ruby Talk = comp.lang.ruby )

posting to Ruby Forumwill post to all three

posting to Ruby Talk or comp.lang.ruby will automatically post to the
other, but won't go to Ruby Forum.

so if you ask a question here, there might be answer in comp.lang.ruby
waiting for you which you didn't know about, unless you subscribe to
Ruby Talk or comp.lang.ruby by email.

 

[Summercool Summercool]

so if you ask a question here, there might be answer in comp.lang.ruby
waiting for you which you didn't know about, unless you subscribe to
Ruby Talk or comp.lang.ruby by email.

so if you want an answer or a new posting to get to the widest audience
group, always use Ruby Forum to post...

 

[Konrad Meyer]

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I'm pretty sure ruby-forum and ruby-talk are inter-changeable (so long as
you're subscribed) and I'd imagine with the ruby-talk <-> usenet gateway
that the same goes for usenet, though I've not seen messages marked as from
there.

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[Robert Klemme]

Quoth Summercool Summercool:

I'm pretty sure ruby-forum and ruby-talk are inter-changeable (so long as
you're subscribed) and I'd imagine with the ruby-talk <-> usenet gateway
that the same goes for usenet, though I've not seen messages marked as from
there.

You are right. The only issue I am aware of ATM is that the news->email
gateway has some delays on the news side. We probably can't do much
about it but you should be aware of this.

Kind regards

robert

 

[James Edward Gray II]

The only issue I am aware of ATM is that the news->email gateway
has some delays on the news side. We probably can't do much about
it but you should be aware of this.

The half of the gateway that reads news messages and sends them as
emails runs as a cron job every five minutes. If the message has hit
our host by the next run, that should be the biggest delay.

James Edward Gray II

 

[James Edward Gray II]

so it seems like Google created Ruby Talk=85

I don't understand this comment. Google did not create Ruby Talk.

but then people replying on the comp.lang.ruby will not get the answer
through to the Ruby Talk poster...

The gateway between Ruby Talk and comp.lang.ruby ferries messages =20
both ways, so I don't understand what you are saying here either.

James Edward Gray II

 

[James Edward Gray II]

Hmm.. how long are those delays? Summercool posted messages from
comp.lang.ruby about 6 hours ago that still aren't showing on ruby-
talk.

Can you point me at the message you are referring to so I can see
what happened to it? Thanks.

James Edward Gray II

 

[Robert Klemme]

The half of the gateway that reads news messages and sends them as
emails runs as a cron job every five minutes. If the message has hit
our host by the next run, that should be the biggest delay.

IIRC we had an email exchange about the phenomenon a few weeks ago and
agreed that the biggest part of the delay was not in the gateway but in
the NNTP path from the posting site to the GW's news server. There's
probably nothing we can do about other than changing the news provider.
But I believe someone mentioned that this is not easy because news
provider generally prohibit this kind of mirroring business in their rules.

Kind regards

robert

 

[James Edward Gray II]

Here you go:

I see this message on Ruby Talk:

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/269262

I also see it on comp.lang.ruby:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/9c0b3b288942c147

Everything seems OK to me. Am I missing something?

James Edward Gray II

 

[Summercool]

So, can I assume that

Ruby Talk == comp.lang.ruby ?

and then Ruby Forum post its messages to Ruby Talk/comp.lang.ruby
but never get the posts from there back to Ruby Forum?

 

[Summercool]

I don't understand this comment. Google did not create Ruby Talk.

so is it that Ruby Talk was first created by Matz... and then Google
just makes a mirror of it?

Where is the official place for Ruby Talk?

 

[James Edward Gray II]

So, can I assume that

Ruby Talk == comp.lang.ruby ?

It's suppose to. There are a small percentage of messages that
aren't gated, for practical reasons. But, on the whole, yes.

James Edward Gray II

 

[James Edward Gray II]

so is it that Ruby Talk was first created by Matz... and then Google
just makes a mirror of it?

Someone created the Google mirror, yes.

Where is the official place for Ruby Talk?

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/

James Edward Gray II

 

[Jano Svitok]

So, can I assume that

Ruby Talk == comp.lang.ruby ?

and then Ruby Forum post its messages to Ruby Talk/comp.lang.ruby
but never get the posts from there back to Ruby Forum?

Perhaps you should tell the ruby-forum maintainer to check for
possible problems, with the same info as you provided to James? For me
it seems to be a problem on their (receving) side (unless it's settled
already).

 

[Andreas Schwarz]

Ruby-Forum is connected to the mailing list. All posts from the forum
are sent to the mailing list; the other way round is a bit more
difficult. The gateway was a bit flaky in this direction, and in case of
a temporary outage the mails from that period wouldn't be processed
automatically when the software came back up. I'm importing all the
missing posts that have accumulated right now, which will be quite a
flood...

The good news is that I have completely rewritten the gateway software
today, it's much more robust now, and I am confident that problems like
this won't happen anymore. Sorry for the trouble.

Regards,
Andreas