ruby-lang web site & ie

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Christoph

Hi,

hi I'd like to point out that IE has problems in rending the ruby-lang
web site. It look just fine under windows with mozilla (firebird)
(and linux of course) and many if not (almost) all visitors of Ruby's
website are probably aware that IE isn't such a great browser but
still IE is the dominant web browser.


/Christoph
 
D

Daniel Carrera

So you are suggesting that we put up a link to the Mozilla website?
Great idea!
 
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Wesley Moxam

The site looks the same to me in both IE and Mozilla Firebird ....
IE version: 6.0.2800.1106
Firebird version : 0.7

-- Wes
 
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Ian Hobson

Wesley Moxam said:
The site looks the same to me in both IE and Mozilla Firebird ....
IE version: 6.0.2800.1106
I just applied all the latest patches to this version of IE, and windows
2K
and it is now so broken it can not handle any secure site.

Anyone else with similar problems?

Anyone with an idea of how to get IE working again?

Had to install Netscrape just to config my firewall and ISP's update
page.

Regards

Ian
 
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Daniel Carrera

Daniel Carrera wrote:

...

Yes, most definitely:) ...
It seems that IE (on my XP lapttop at least:) still has problems
with absolute positioning

Clearly IE is not ready for the desktop.

Regardless, absolute rendering is evil and it should be fixed. It is a
basic accessibility guideline that rendering should be proportional (ie.
use "em" or %). If you use absolute rendering the page will only look
right for people who have the same monitor size as the dude or dudette who
wrote the page.

Cheers,
 
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Eric Hodel

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Regardless, absolute rendering is evil and it should be fixed. It is a= =20
basic accessibility guideline that rendering should be proportional (ie.= =20
use "em" or %). If you use absolute rendering the page will only look=20
right for people who have the same monitor size as the dude or dudette wh= o=20
wrote the page.

Absolute positioning is not evil.

div.sidebar { position: absolute; top: 130px; left: 0px; width: 129px; }

This will make column's width is as wide as the image above it. Using
proportional rendering would not achieve acceptable rendering as easily.

Second, this uses the same technique as below, allowing non-visual users
to more quickly skip to content.

#header { position: absolute; top: 0; left: 0; width: 100%; height: 2em; }
#main { margin-top: 2em; }
#footer { ... }

<div id=3D"main"> ... </div>
<div id=3D"header"> ... </div>
<div id=3D"footer"> ... </div>

This setup is *more* accessible than a non-positioned page, especially
in the absecence of CSS support. Non-visual users skip straight to the
content, and don't have to wade through the massively nested ul stuck in
#header to do nested menus.

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Daniel Carrera

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:49:29PM -0800, Eric Hodel wrote:

Second, this uses the same technique as below, allowing non-visual users
to more quickly skip to content. [snip]
<div id="main"> ... </div>
<div id="header"> ... </div>
<div id="footer"> ... </div>

This setup is *more* accessible than a non-positioned page,

What does this have to do with absolute positioning. XHTML, <div> and CSS
are good for non-visual users. Absolute positining adds nothing to
non-visual users. Don't mix these up.
 

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