Ruby on Rails interest in comp.lang.python

[Stephen Kellett]

A heads up to the Rails folks.

There is a thread on comp.lang.python asking if there is an equivalent
to Ruby on Rails for Python. Thread title is "Python analog of Ruby on
Rails?"

Stephen

 

[Curt Hibbs]

A heads up to the Rails folks.

There is a thread on comp.lang.python asking if there is an equivalent
to Ruby on Rails for Python. Thread title is "Python analog of Ruby on
Rails?"

Stephen

Huh?

I just took a look hoping to find some interesting discussions, but
there was only one response that said "check out subway", and the remain
postings were about how "cool" someone's signature line was.

Did I miss something? (I was reading through Google Groups).

Curt

 

[Stephen Kellett]

Did I miss something? (I was reading through Google Groups).

Possibly, possibly not. I thought it was interesting that some of them
are interested in Rails and seem to want to reinvent the wheel.

I doubt they'll keep discussing the sig for much longer, may get more
interesting then.

 

[Dave Burt]

... I thought it was interesting that some of them are interested in Rails
and seem to want to reinvent the wheel.

I believe a good (Pythonic) implementation of Python on Rails would be quite
a different beast to RoR, because the two languages and kind of based on
different philosophies. There's certainly room for an full end-to-end web
application (like Rails) in Python. Good luck to Subway and all the other
copycat projects.

Cheers,
Dave

 

[zimba.tm]

Which makes me think of... is there a ruby equivalent of Twisted ?
It's an event-drivent network framework. I always wanted to know that

Cheers,
zimba

 

[Joao Pedrosa]

Hi,

Which makes me think of... is there a ruby equivalent of Twisted ?
It's an event-drivent network framework. I always wanted to know that

No.

Cheers,
Joao

 

[Robert Mannl]

Good luck to Subway and all the other
copycat projects.

I'm new to all of this -- is there a mutual hostility between the Python
and the Ruby community?

 

[Ara.T.Howard]

Hi,

what about spread and rb_spread? it's an event driven ultra fault tolerant
networking protocol used to build distributed systems.

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[Joao Pedrosa]

Hi,

=20
I'm new to all of this -- is there a mutual hostility between the Python
and the Ruby community?

Yes. The Python community is too big to bother with the Ruby community.

I personally can't stand Python, the language. But the community is
young and passionated.

Cheers,
Joao

 

[Nicholas Wieland]

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Which makes me think of... is there a ruby equivalent of Twisted ?
It's an event-drivent network framework. I always wanted to know that

http://www.deveiate.org/code/IO-Reactor.html
This can help implementing something similar
A Rubyfied Twisted Matrix would be great.

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[Dave Burt]

I'm new to all of this -- is there a mutual hostility between the Python
and the Ruby community?

Yes, there is Its heart, I think, is the difference of philosophy I
mentioned earlier - Ruby's TIMTOWTDI (stolen from Perl) and Python's There
Can Only Be One (Way To Do It). Add to that people who are just attached to
what they know, and people who have tried both and passionately prefer one
over the other...

I really didn't mean "copycat" in a negative way, though. Please imagine a
more neutral adjective if it looks that way

Cheers,
Dave

 

[Francis Hwang]

I'm new to all of this -- is there a mutual hostility between the
Python and the Ruby community?

Hostility is probably too strong a word. "Healthy competition" is
probably much closer. Python and Ruby are relatively similar languages
(Python is more like Ruby than, say, Java is) and they're sort of
jockeying for the same position in the market: Programmers and
companies who are looking for somewhere else to go now that Perl
appears to be at a terminal point.

Francis Hwang
http://fhwang.net/

 

[Phil Tomson]

Hi,



No.

Should there be one? Might there be some advantages?

phil

 

[gabriele renzi]

Francis Hwang ha scritto:

Hostility is probably too strong a word. "Healthy competition" is
probably much closer.

definitely much better.
And I think ruby-the-language owes something to python.
OTOH I guess python as it is now is a result of some of the pressure
coming from ruby (i.e. "hey, ruby is pure OO!" )

Cross pollination is a great thing, I hope the ruby and python (and tcl
and perl and Io and whatever) communities can keep on taking good things
from each other.