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Message: [QUOTE="ogilthorpe, post: 4479844"] I don't think that you answered either of my questions. If you have and someone can tell me what the answers were, I'd appreciate it. I guess I'm not sure why the site is called "The Computer Language Shootout". To me, a shootout feels like a thing that pits two entities against one another in a competition. The result of a shootout is definitely a winner and a loser, depending on the definition of victory. When you discuss the site, you talk about it as an educational tool. I'm all for that kind of thing, and your response to me is reasonable and if = I were looking for help it would be helpful. The problem is the use of the word benchmark. By claiming to offer "benchmarks", the site is purporting to offer measured and standard methods of comparisons between programming languages. The many disclaimers show that these numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, but the site's keywords, "benchmarking fast programming language benchmar= k performance benchmarks shootout program" show otherwise. And so I think that the site, or more specifically its design, is very disingenuous. The site offers itself as a home for objective comparison of the performance of programming languages. There is no such thing, and so the site should not claim that there is. [/QUOTE]