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Message: [QUOTE="Adam Skutt, post: 4178320"] Funny, I write considerable detail about why such a thing is a pipedream and useless even if it came to fruition, and you somehow believe I'm in support of such an absurd idea. If you believe what I said is true, then you cannot seriously support any sort of "OpenGUI" standard, and I advise you to google that term before you use it again. Tell me, are you a political science major? Heck, to be totally honest, I've never been 100% convinced that cross- platform GUI APIs were even such a good idea. I certainly use them, but only in situations that are very simple or where I'm OK with accepting the fact my application will not be truly a first-class application[1][2]. Even minor differences in presentation can have large ramifications on how applications should function and therefore be written. Only if you have no clue what you're talking about whatsoever. You perceive them as useless because you're apparently incapable of understanding the simplest GUI precepts, nevermind APIs, which is why you've gone from Pure Python GUI to wxWidgets to this OpenGUI bullshit you're now espousing. Desperately clinging to a position doesn't make you look intelligent. Plus, I'm not sure what entropy you're talking about, but I'm not seeing it. MS continues to innovate, Apple continues to innovate, some portions of the Linux community do innovative things. Though most people just want to put something together and call it a day, and the functionality provided by a lot of toolkits is beyond adequate for that. Adam [1] Or solely on Linux where all of the "native" toolkits have cross- platform support. [2] To say nothing about the explosion of web "applications" in the world today... [/QUOTE]

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