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Message: [QUOTE="dorayme, post: 4398867"] There is no forcing, and the menus native to the apps are *kept* and are a little different for different apps. Your point seems based on a misunderstanding? The fact that they are developed for Macs ensures a certain consistency of course, but Firefox and Fireworks and BBEdit and my newsreader have rather different menus. We are not doing that. We are talking deep religious differences and what could be more important? It will all come out at the Gates of St Peter, it is best to be prepared. [/QUOTE]