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Message: [QUOTE="Nikolai Weibull, post: 4482010"] =E2=8B=AE OK, I realize now that I may have come on a little strong here. I'm sorry if anyone feels that my response was uncalled for. However, I didn't want to see this thread spin off into yet another Vim-vs.-Emacs discussion, so I wrote down what I felt about the potential future of this _sub-thread_, nikolai P.S. For all those that can't possibly see life without shell-buffers, there's always [URL]http://www.wana.at/vimshell/index.php[/URL]. I forgot to mention it earlier. D.S. --=20 Nikolai Weibull: now available free of charge at [URL]http://bitwi.se/[/URL]! Born in Chicago, IL USA; currently residing in Gothenburg, Sweden. main(){printf(&linux["\021%six\012\0"],(linux)["have"]+"fun"-97);} [/QUOTE]