web programming in perl

[Tom Forsmo]

Hi

I have been out of the perl web programming sphere for a long time, so I
have a couple of quick question just to point me in the right direction.

- is perl used as much for web programming compared to f.ex php, ruby, java?
- what are the primary forums for dicussing perl web programming these days?
- what are the most used web frameworks for perl? I have found out about
Catalyst, and it seems to be used on some known sites

links to articles discussing modern perl programming techniques and
frameworks would also be appreciated.

regards

tom

 

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

- what are the primary forums for dicussing perl web programming these
days?

I don't know. I do know that it's not this group... And the dedicated
group "comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi" has been out of order for
almost a year now.

- what are the most used web frameworks for perl? I have found out about
Catalyst, and it seems to be used on some known sites

The "CGI/Web Programming and Administration" links at
http://www.perl.org/app.html should be of interest to you.

 

[Gunnar Hjalmarsson]

If a question is *really* about Perl, and not about HTML, CSS, SQL, or some
other technology, then it's perfectly on-topic here.

Yeah, it wasn't my intent to claim otherwise. But it's my feeling that
many web programming issues are of a multi-discipline nature, and hence
considered off-topic here by some regulars.

Btw, this reminds me of this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.perl.misc/browse_frm/thread/463c4e90b6dbc2ea

 

[Tom Forsmo]

If a question is *really* about Perl, and not about HTML, CSS, SQL, or some
other technology, then it's perfectly on-topic here. A basic rule-of-thumb
that I use is to ask myself if the question would be substantially different
if a different server-side language were involved, or if the relevant content
were being served directly from static files.

If the answer to that is "no," then odds are good that the question is in
fact about HTML, CSS, or whatever. In that case, more and better answers to
it could be found in a more appropriate forum.

Well, since I said "perl web programming", chances are I mean "how and
what web technologies integrate with perl"... not "how to use a non perl
technology" in web programming.

tom

 

[Tom Forsmo]

But it's my feeling that
many web programming issues are of a multi-discipline nature, and hence
considered off-topic here by some regulars.

The reason I asked was that the traffic on this group is not very high,
when you remove the perlfaq automated posts, so I assumed there were
other more high traffic forums.

 

[Jürgen Exner]

The reason I asked was that the traffic on this group is not very
high, when you remove the perlfaq automated posts, so I assumed there
were other more high traffic forums.

Excuse me? Just for August I got over 1800 postings even _after_ filtering
some very verbose trolls. If an average of 60 postings a day isn't enough
traffic for you then I don't know what.

jue

 

[Tom Forsmo]

wrote:

Excuse me? Just for August I got over 1800 postings even _after_ filtering
some very verbose trolls. If an average of 60 postings a day isn't enough
traffic for you then I don't know what.

Maybe its my ISP's news server then, my view shows me about 5-10 posts
per day in this group, thats including automated posts.

tom

 

[moldovenu]

I have been out of the perl web programming sphere for a long time, so I

have a couple of quick question just to point me in the right direction.

- is perl used as much for web programming compared to f.ex php, ruby,
java?

It depends on many reasons - in companies where perl is used for years -
yes - it is still in use. But it is more about perl at all compared to
other langs, companies politics etc.

- what are the primary forums for dicussing perl web programming these
days?
- what are the most used web frameworks for perl? I have found out about
Catalyst, and it seems to be used on some known sites

Catalyst is probably the most popular and extensible MVC framework in
perl. There are many "real business" projects made or in development
using Catalyst. However it can take some time to be in production level
in Cata. Check catalyst mail-list, irc; the documentation can a little
suck but framework and community around it is really great.

There are also other modern frameworks like Jifty (people say: faster
start-up compared to Catalyst) or kind of glue like CGI::App.

links to articles discussing modern perl programming techniques and
frameworks would also be appreciated.

google for "MVC my_favourite_language"

mold