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Message: [QUOTE="Mark McIntyre, post: 2444408"] Actually, yep, sometimes. Thats the objective of all languages " I think Walter's point was that C++ apps generally make use of the C++ standard library, and thats a lot larger than the C standard library. This is wrong. Its possible for C to be much faster than C++ (and vice versa) when doing the same thing. Whats important is how *well* you do it. And - you apply occam's razor and use the simplest tool for the job Why use a truck, when a mini will do? Mark McIntyre [/QUOTE]