Will ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?

[J. D.]

Hi,

Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?

Thanks.

 

[Jamis Buck]

Hi,

Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?

Thanks.

I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid
target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to
my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.

- Jamis

 

[Ara.T.Howard]

I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid
target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to
my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.

sure it does - it's called mysql. ;-)

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[J. D.]

I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid
target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to
my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.

- Jamis

Do you know if sqlite 3.x will be supported soon? I just guessing you'd
be the guru working on 3.x support for ruby. But I don't know how
soon that would translate to support in ActiveRecord.

 

[Jamis Buck]

Do you know if sqlite 3.x will be supported soon? I just guessing you'd
be the guru working on 3.x support for ruby. But I don't know how
soon that would translate to support in ActiveRecord.

SQLite3 support is on my TODO list, but I'm waiting for sqlite3 to
stabilize. (I've had reports that it is still not quite ready for
production stuff.) Also, it appears that more people are wanting me to
finish Net::SSH than work on SQLite3, so Net::SSH is my current priority
(now that Needle 1.0 is out the door).

- Jamis

 

[Ara.T.Howard]

SQLite3 support is on my TODO list, but I'm waiting for sqlite3 to
stabilize. (I've had reports that it is still not quite ready for production
stuff.) Also, it appears that more people are wanting me to finish Net::SSH
than work on SQLite3, so Net::SSH is my current priority (now that Needle
1.0 is out the door).

what you need is some more projects ;-)

all - we need to start a paypal account for jamis or something!

-a
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[Jamis Buck]

what you need is some more projects ;-)

lol no kidding. I'm quite motivated to get Net::SSH stabilized,
though, because once that's done

all - we need to start a paypal account for jamis or something!

Hey, I'm always open to free money.

- Jamis

 

[Jamis Buck]

lol no kidding. I'm quite motivated to get Net::SSH stabilized,
though, because once that's done

Gah! I don't even have time to finish my sentences! What I *meant* to
say was, "because once that's done, I'll have some time to focus on some
projects I've been neglecting for a long time, like my personal finance
manager."

Sheesh.

- Jamis

 

[Ara.T.Howard]

Gah! I don't even have time to finish my sentences! What I *meant* to say
was, "because once that's done, I'll have some time to focus on some
projects I've been neglecting for a long time, like my personal finance
manager."

obviously to manage the terrific influx of paypal donations right?

-a
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[gabriele renzi]

Jamis Buck ha scritto:

I can't speak for David, but I wouldn't think BDB would be a valid
target for ActiveRecord. AR is very SQL-dependent, and BDB does not (to
my knowledge) sport an SQL front-end.

well, anyway I think an ActiveRecord-like api is possible.
I'm thinking of the MadeleineRecord wish that you can find on the rails
wiki, and of ActiveLDAP.

 

[David Heinemeier Hansson]

Are there plans to have ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB?

The plan is that I'm open to contributions

Seriously, if you want a certain database supported in Active Record,
you should really have a look at giving it a go. There's a ton of unit
tests, lots of examples from the other adapters, and a healthy
community. Most adapters are around a hundred lines of code.
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[Jamis Buck]

The plan is that I'm open to contributions

Seriously, if you want a certain database supported in Active Record,
you should really have a look at giving it a go. There's a ton of unit
tests, lots of examples from the other adapters, and a healthy
community. Most adapters are around a hundred lines of code.

Keep in mind, though, that much of the functionality that AR::Base adds
to your subclasses is implemented using SQL. Thus, unless your chosen
backend supports an SQL interface, you'll probably wind up having to
reimplement most of that functionality. Which means AR wouldn't be
buying you very much.

It would be *nice* (and I'm not volunteering, David! ) if AR
abstracted a bit more away from SQL, but that would add a lot more
complexity to an already fairly complex beast. As it is, it is a great
fit for *most* things, and for everything else, wellll....there's
MasterCard. (sorry, I couldn't resist.)

- Jamis

 

[David Heinemeier Hansson]

if AR abstracted a bit more away from SQL, but that would add a lot

more complexity to an already fairly complex beast. As it is, it is a
great fit for *most* things, and for everything else,
wellll....there's MasterCard. (sorry, I couldn't resist.)

Active Record's niche is the close relationship with SQL. I see that as
a definite strength over similar frameworks that attempts to abstract
the querying to their own object-like interfaces.
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