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Message: [QUOTE="ena8t8si, post: 2466971"] "Evaluation of an expression may produce side effects." Obviously if evaluation produces the side effects, then the side effects can't come first. I'm not. Both commas must be evaluated before plus. There is no ordering between either operand of the first comma and either operand of the second comma. When the Standard says "the next sequence point" what it means is the first sequence point that must come afterwards in all possible orderings. The next sequence point after b is the sequence point of the whole expression, regardless of evaluation order. [/QUOTE]