A Mascot...

[Gregory Brown]

It looks like mascots are in general out of fashion these says. Even
NetBSD which had a fine demon for a long time went to a bland flag :-S

On the contrary, Prawn has a mighty-fine smiling ... Prawn ... as its logo:
http://prawn.majesticseacreature.com/

But I think individual projects can get away with more than a
programming language should be able to, especially once it becomes
more popular.
I can't imagine hanging on to our cuddly little crustacean if/when
Prawn is merged with the Ruby PDF project.

-greg

 

[Robert Dober]

Definitely get more momentum. Looks like 2 for mascot, 5+ against so
far.

Can I hear some defined reasons why people don't like a mascot? Don't
know why a lack of a mascot makes Ruby much better...

Maybe I am just too conservative about it. I believe Ruby does not
need a mascot. A mascot is something people associate with a product
etc. I would hate if a mascot would imply something about Ruby. I
prefer people see Ruby for what it is.
That said I am not strongly opposed, just slightly, and I do not think
that it will matter a lot.

Cheers
Robert

 

[Tim Hunter]

I think that we must use a kind of artificial animal, like dogs. I mean,
an
animal made by human beings because Ruby is for me like the first
programming language that actually speaks like human and has an human
behavior (able to says stuff in different ways).

http://studio.imagemagick.org/RMagick/doc/ex/images/duck.gif

 

[F. Senault]

Le 20 août 2008 à 21:32, Robert Dober a écrit :

Maybe I am just too conservative about it. I believe Ruby does not
need a mascot. A mascot is something people associate with a product
etc.

C'mon, it has some good points :

http://freebsd-image-gallery.netcode.pl/?gallery=Daemonette

(But we need to choose an adequate beast...)

Fred

 

[Michal Suchanek]

http://studio.imagemagick.org/RMagick/doc/ex/images/duck.gif

Shouldn't the duck be red?

It's a ruby duck after all...



Thanks

Michal

 

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

Could you make a cute lobster? Or you could go the opposite direction, with an extreme lobster! With razor-sharp claws and all.

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I suggest a lobster as mascot.

So this guy gets on the plane with a lobster in a box. I ask the guy,
"where'd you get the lobster" and he says, "I bought it in the airport
-- I'm taking it home for dinner"

And the lobster says, "I've already had dinner -- take me to a movie"


--
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
ruby-perspectives.blogspot.com

"A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems." --
Alfréd Rényi via Paul Erdős

 

[Robert Dober]

Could you make a cute lobster? Or you could go the opposite direction, with an extreme lobster! With razor-sharp claws and all.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:22 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

I suggest a lobster as mascot.

So this guy gets on the plane with a lobster in a box. I ask the guy,
"where'd you get the lobster" and he says, "I bought it in the airport
-- I'm taking it home for dinner"

And the lobster says, "I've already had dinner -- take me to a movie"

We shall create a Ruby joke, BTW Ed, did the lobster like the movie?
R.

 

[Suraj Kurapati]

while Ruby probably has a logo (the ruby gem itself) it doesn't have a mascot.

False. Ruby has had a mascot since 2004: the cute anime character
"Ruby-chan" ("chan" is a suffix of endearment in Japanese; something
like "lil' Ruby") designed by Yoshida Masato:

http://www.yoshidam.net/Ruby-chan/

 

[Pablo Q.]

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WFT!

 

[Matt Harrison]

False. Ruby has had a mascot since 2004: the cute anime character
"Ruby-chan" ("chan" is a suffix of endearment in Japanese; something
like "lil' Ruby") designed by Yoshida Masato:

http://www.yoshidam.net/Ruby-chan/

A mascot for a grown-up programming language has a version which is nude???

How inappropriate. I'm glad this mascot isn't widely acknowledged as it
is not only irrelevant to ruby, it's also quite childish.

I would hope that if Ruby did officially adopt a mascot it would be much
more suited to it's task.

Matt

 

[Martin Bryce]

Ruby-tan. I knew that there had to be one... (And there is even the
meido version!

A mascot for a grown-up programming language has a version which is
nude???

I understand you don't like manga

How inappropriate. I'm glad this mascot isn't widely acknowledged as it
is not only irrelevant to ruby, it's also quite childish.

But very Japanese... did you know that the hometown of mangaka Gosho
Aoyama used images from his "Meitantei Conan" (called "Case Closed" in
America) as anti-counterfeiting features in official documents? Or that
even the Japanese Self-Defence Forces have been seen using cutesy
anime-styled super-deformed mascots in official publicity materials?
(Those are not exactly anime-gals, yeah, but I think they're even
"worse". After all pinups have always had a strong association with the
military )

 

[David A. Black]

Hi --

False. Ruby has had a mascot since 2004: the cute anime character
"Ruby-chan" ("chan" is a suffix of endearment in Japanese; something
like "lil' Ruby") designed by Yoshida Masato:

Ruby has no mascot, and I hope it stays that way.


David

 

[Joel VanderWerf]

Ruby has no mascot, and I hope it stays that way.

Let's not forget the snail fiasco

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/21962

 

[Joshua Ballanco]

Hi --
Ruby has no mascot, and I hope it stays that way.

Ruby has _why, ergo no need for a mascot!

 

[Daniel N]

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Let's not forget the snail fiasco

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/21962

+1 for Ruby never having a mascot.

Alarm bells have started to ring.

 

[David A. Black]

Let's not forget the snail fiasco

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/21962

Snailgate.


David

 

[David Masover]

A mascot for a grown-up programming language has a version which is nude???

*gasp* Nudity! That could never be art...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_de_milo

Or a logo...

http://www.deadprogrammer.com/starbucks-logo-mermaid

I'm glad this mascot isn't widely acknowledged as it
is not only irrelevant to ruby, it's also quite childish.

Well, hey, one more:

http://python.org/

And, of course, some variations:

http://www.cafepress.com/wxpython

Quite childish, and somewhat less to do with the origin of the name (which is
Monty Python, not actual pythons).

I would hope that if Ruby did officially adopt a mascot it would be much
more suited to it's task.

Well, again -- see Starbucks.

I'm not really sure how you would make a logo relevant, here.

At the end of the day, Ruby is about making programming easier, and about
making the computer work for you. I honestly have trouble figuring out how to
put that into a logo -- a robot in a maid uniform? A happy person sitting at
a computer?

Some of the better-known logos in software

http://kernel.org/

have NOTHING to do with their projects, either in name or in content.

At least ruby-chan has red hair! And she looks pretty -- Ruby is also about
beautiful code. Could be argued that it's about sexy code, but I'll say no
more about that.



I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. I like Ruby-chan, but I also see value in
not having a mascot.

I have no opinion either way, other than "Kawaii!"

 

[Robert Dober]

... and I still do not know if the lobster liked dinner!

 

[David A. Black]

Hi --

*gasp* Nudity! That could never be art...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_(Michelangelo)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_de_milo

Or a logo...

http://www.deadprogrammer.com/starbucks-logo-mermaid

Starbucks isn't my role model as a Rubyist (or in any other respect).

At least ruby-chan has red hair! And she looks pretty -- Ruby is also about
beautiful code. Could be argued that it's about sexy code, but I'll say no
more about that.

A human female is not an appropriate choice for a "mascot." Here's
what I wrote about it more than seven years ago, when this alarming
suggestion first reared its head:

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/14209


David

 

[Karl von Laudermann]

Ruby has _why, ergo no need for a mascot!

Actually, didn't _why create this duck to be a ruby mascot?
http://redhanded.hobix.com/images/redhanded-duck.gif