Adding a search to a site

[TalaGuy]

Hi:
I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search that
gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
(http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will only
search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any recommendations for a
simple method of adding a site search to my site? My site is designed in
..asp.



Thanks,

 

[Graham]

Hi:
I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search that
gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
(http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will only
search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any recommendations for a
simple method of adding a site search to my site? My site is designed in
.asp.

You could use a PPC search engine with affiliates program such as the one in my
sig.



Search Engine & Message Board :-
http://www.12noon.net
http://www.12noon.net/forum
.....also....
http://www.gtmobiles.co.uk

 

[Sparky]

Feel free to add my search box to your site. It will search a vast index of
internetional search engines.
If your user types 'hotel' for example they will be presented with a list of
search engines to find hotels.
Get the code from http://www.searchenginelinks.co.uk/linktous/index.html

 

[Mark Parnell]

Feel free to add my search box to your site. It will search a vast
index of internetional search engines.
If your user types 'hotel' for example they will be presented with a
list of search engines to find hotels.
Get the code from
http://www.searchenginelinks.co.uk/linktous/index.html

The OP was looking for a way for visitors to search *within* his site, not a
general search from on his site.

BTW:
How am I supposed to post my replies in a newsgroup?:
http://allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

 

[catherine yronwode]

Hi:
I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a search that
gives up to date results. So adding Google for free
(http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out, since it will only
search on what it cached last time it crawled. Any recommendations for a
simple method of adding a site search to my site? My site is designed in
.asp.

Thanks,

I highly recommend atomz.com.

• Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
tiered pricing structure.

• You can set your own form of search "look" from very
simple (just the word "search" with you selecting a default
setting from "exact match" or ""any word" or "all words")
to highly intricate layouts including many search terms --
including the ability to search date ranges by day and month
(good for ezines); boolean seach is supported, of course.

• You can weight subsidiary portions of your web pages so
that when the keyword results are returned to the party
making the search, the things you want viewers to see willl
have most weight and will rise to the top of the search
results. Weighting is on a 0 - 10 scale. Elements that can
be weighted include title, file name, metatags, body copy,
etc. Using the weighting system, you can actually
approximates google ranking for the same pages -- or produce
results skewed in another direction, if that serves you
better.

• You can re-index by hand any time you wish or set your
reindexing to an automated schedule.

• You receive a weekly report via email listing the number
of searches conducted and the top-ten search terms used at
your site -- and from that email you can click a link to a
web page that displays the entire log of search requests for
that week, if you wish.

• On the pay-for-use version you can also customize the look
and feel of the results page (e.g. with your logo instead of
the atomz.com logo).

• The people at atomz.com are responsive, efficient, and
friendly.

• I have used their service for several years now and would
not change under any circumstances. If you contact them, you
can use my name as a reference. I am not connected to their
company in any way, but i think they are providing a useful
service that is loaded with exemplary features and i wish to
see them succeed.

cat yronwode
Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com

 

[Titus A Ducksass]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:45:53 GMT, catherine yronwode

I highly recommend atomz.com.

<snip>
PMFJI.
I have been following this thread & here is M2pW.
I agree.
However, they cannot index our intranet due to password protection.
What I need is details of how to implement a search directly on our
servers.
Any ideas?

 

[Jacqui or (maybe) Pete]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:45:53 GMT, catherine yronwode

....
However, they cannot index our intranet due to password protection.
What I need is details of how to implement a search directly on our
servers.

What's your budget? How about
http://www.google.com/appliance/hardware.html ?

 

[Big Bill]

I highly recommend atomz.com.

so do I The reports can be very useful.

BB

• Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
tiered pricing structure.

• You can set your own form of search "look" from very
simple (just the word "search" with you selecting a default
setting from "exact match" or ""any word" or "all words")
to highly intricate layouts including many search terms --
including the ability to search date ranges by day and month
(good for ezines); boolean seach is supported, of course.

• You can weight subsidiary portions of your web pages so
that when the keyword results are returned to the party
making the search, the things you want viewers to see willl
have most weight and will rise to the top of the search
results. Weighting is on a 0 - 10 scale. Elements that can
be weighted include title, file name, metatags, body copy,
etc. Using the weighting system, you can actually
approximates google ranking for the same pages -- or produce
results skewed in another direction, if that serves you
better.

• You can re-index by hand any time you wish or set your
reindexing to an automated schedule.

• You receive a weekly report via email listing the number
of searches conducted and the top-ten search terms used at
your site -- and from that email you can click a link to a
web page that displays the entire log of search requests for
that week, if you wish.

• On the pay-for-use version you can also customize the look
and feel of the results page (e.g. with your logo instead of
the atomz.com logo).

• The people at atomz.com are responsive, efficient, and
friendly.

• I have used their service for several years now and would
not change under any circumstances. If you contact them, you
can use my name as a reference. I am not connected to their
company in any way, but i think they are providing a useful
service that is loaded with exemplary features and i wish to
see them succeed.

cat yronwode
Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com

MFW Britpack www.extreme-positioning.co.uk
There is only one war, and it's not the rich against the poor,
the blacks against the whites, the Federation against the Borg,
or the Democrats versus the Republicans. It's those of us who
aren't complete idiots against those of us who are.

 

[Simon Gibson]

Hi all,

I find the most cost effective way to add a search facility to your
Intranet or Web site is to use Microsoft's Index Server. This won't
cost you anything as it's included with their server software.

Simply create a catalog for your site. You can follow the 10 steps in
my tutorial here if you like:
http://www.simongibson.com/intranet/indexserv/indexserv.html

And then create an asp search page to add to your site. If you don't
fancy writing one yourself, you can purchase one from my site for
US$25:
http://www.simongibson.com/intranet/indxscpt/indxscpt.html

That's pretty much it, a fully functional search engine for your
Intranet or Web Site for 25 bucks.

Hope this helps,

Simon Gibson
http://www.simongibson.com

 

[TheGuru]

I highly recommend atomz.com.

? Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
tiered pricing structure.

? You can set your own form of search "look" from very
simple (just the word "search" with you selecting a default
setting from "exact match" or ""any word" or "all words")
to highly intricate layouts including many search terms --
including the ability to search date ranges by day and month
(good for ezines); boolean seach is supported, of course.

? You can weight subsidiary portions of your web pages so
that when the keyword results are returned to the party
making the search, the things you want viewers to see willl
have most weight and will rise to the top of the search
results. Weighting is on a 0 - 10 scale. Elements that can
be weighted include title, file name, metatags, body copy,
etc. Using the weighting system, you can actually
approximates google ranking for the same pages -- or produce
results skewed in another direction, if that serves you
better.

? You can re-index by hand any time you wish or set your
reindexing to an automated schedule.

? You receive a weekly report via email listing the number
of searches conducted and the top-ten search terms used at
your site -- and from that email you can click a link to a
web page that displays the entire log of search requests for
that week, if you wish.

? On the pay-for-use version you can also customize the look
and feel of the results page (e.g. with your logo instead of
the atomz.com logo).

? The people at atomz.com are responsive, efficient, and
friendly.

? I have used their service for several years now and would
not change under any circumstances. If you contact them, you
can use my name as a reference. I am not connected to their
company in any way, but i think they are providing a useful
service that is loaded with exemplary features and i wish to
see them succeed.

cat yronwode
Lucky Mojo Curio Co. http://www.luckymojo.com

I recommend FusionBot when it comes to hosted site search, if you can
implement in such an environment, as their free version is robust as
well. However, when / if you every require upgrading to a paid level
subscription, you won't break the bank ;-)

http://www.fusionbot.com

 

[Rob McAninch]

Hi:
I wanted to add a site search to the site I just designed-a
search that gives up to date results. So adding Google for
free (http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both) is out,
since it will only search on what it cached last time it
crawled. Any recommendations for a simple method of adding a
site search to my site? My site is designed in .asp.

I use a simple search from boutell.com, it is Perl CGI. Perhaps you
can rewrite for ASP. Or just use it directly.

 

[Simon Gibson]

That's actually not true. Index Server is part of IIS which is also
included with Windows 2000 Professional (for example) which is around
a hundred pounds these days for the version upgrade. This would be
ideal in an intranet situation where you don't need to host more than
one site (as you're limited with the W2K version of IIS). That said,
many SMEs will have at least 1 Windows Server already so they might as
well make full use of what they've paid for!

As far as a LAMP installation goes, there's no in-built provision to
easily provide an intranet search facility and it's the time and
effort of trying to achieve this that will out-weigh it's short-term
cost savings.

Naturally, a search solution for Index Server won't work on a LAMP
installation as it's VBScript/ASP based not PHP-based and uses Index
Server. It will, however, index files on a UNIX-type platform accross
a network but there are often problems as UNIX-type filesystems are
case sensitive and Microsoft types are not.

Simon

 

[Jo]

I highly recommend atomz.com.

? Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
tiered pricing structure.

I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.

I've taken a look at atomz.com and there is no longer any mention of
fees - you have to contact them to get prices. Sorry to contradict -
this is just my experience.

HTH

Jo

 

[Toby A Inkster]

I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.

With that many pages you should have a database backend anyway, so it's
easy enough to write your own search engine.

 

[Titus A Ducksass]

With that many pages you should have a database backend anyway, so it's
easy enough to write your own search engine.

My site is c.300 pages and growing.
My intranet is c. 100 pages.
Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
everyday.

 

[TheGuru]

I highly recommend atomz.com.


I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.

I've taken a look at atomz.com and there is no longer any mention of
fees - you have to contact them to get prices. Sorry to contradict -
this is just my experience.

HTH

Jo

That's precisely why I recommend FusionBot!

For just over 500 pages, your yearly fee will range between $240.00 to
$720.00, and I find their search features to surpass those of Atomz
anyway.

Hard to understand why anyone would choose the Atomz solution...

 

[Toby A Inkster]

My site is c.300 pages and growing.
My intranet is c. 100 pages.
Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
everyday.

For static content, look into htdig.

If your site is database-backed, you will get better results writing your
own custom search engine. I wrote one for my site. It took about an hour
and a half. The source code is available for my entire site (go to my site
and search for 'demiblog') and this should give you an idea of how to do
it.

 

[Titus A Ducksass]

For static content, look into htdig.

If your site is database-backed, you will get better results writing your
own custom search engine. I wrote one for my site. It took about an hour
and a half. The source code is available for my entire site (go to my site
and search for 'demiblog') and this should give you an idea of how to do
it.

Thank you.
I love people that respond with curtious and helpfull replies.
Once again Thank you.

 

[Titus A Ducksass]

On 9 Jul 2003 07:42:45 -0700, (e-mail address removed) (TheGuru) wrote:

That's precisely why I recommend FusionBot!

For just over 500 pages, your yearly fee will range between $240.00 to
$720.00, and I find their search features to surpass those of Atomz
anyway.

Hard to understand why anyone would choose the Atomz solution...

Because it is FREE!!!
(For less than 500 pages anyway.)

 

[Titus A Ducksass]

So is FusionBot! We weren't talking about FREE package levels, as the
requirements are much larger than any free solutions, for the most
part.

It's a given that all the reputable providers offer a free solution.

I bow to your knowledge and experience.
It doesnt allow as many pages as Atomz though it does offer an extra
function of a site map.