Can Either of These be Legal HTML?

[dorayme]

I do indeed reject what you say, but not because of too much drama.
I reject it because it is *wrong*. It is as if you were to show up
at an auto repair business with your car behind a tow truck, tell
the mechanic that it won't start, and then, when he asks you to pop
thenhood open so he can take a look, tell him that a mechanic should
help a car owner without imposing special obligations such as opening
the hood!

I suspected you would not understand. You shoot from the hip with a
blunderbuss. You do not define the "it" in your "it is "wrong"". I have
told you there are situations where people are not particularly obliged
to do more than they do when asking questions and you are simply
ignoring the considerations I gave you.

This is just another form of the same old assumption --
that you know better than the mechanic does whether he needs to look
under the hood in order to diagnose a car that won't start.

You are running off like a hare. You need to slow down. It is not
obvious that this is the assumption of someone who refuses to open the
bonnet for the mechanic. You are so busy running so fast that you jumble
everything up and jump to conclusions which are not warranted.

And the
answer is the same as well; if you are such an expert, go ahead and
prove it us by solving the problem without looking under the hood.
Either that or face the same choce we have been discussing, which is
to either pop the hood like the nice mechanic asks, or to do without
his services.

This is just you failing to consider a whole range of other
possibilities.

 

[mynameisnobodyodyssea]

If I had a working page that existed in some place that you could see
it, I would. I did not want to go into the gory details but here
goes, since you've raised this issue in this way. My university (I am
a programmer on staff, not a student) has purchased a boatload of
PeopleSoft modules. One of them is CRM. CRM has a "Document Designer"
that produces primitive HTML, if you are willing to live with a page
that contains no branding or style of any kind. We are still at the
development stage with this product.
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Ken

Hi Ken,

Can you contact support for this product?
I assume the product was bought with
help documentation and contact/support details(?)

I did not use PeopleSoft CRM, so I do not know exactly
what is going on, but as already mentioned in this thread,
there are some obvious possibilities:

1. the code has to be processed/transformed at
server-level to valid (X)HTML before
it is sent to the browser,

2. or the code is complemented by something
like an XSLT stylesheet, to instruct the browser
to produce valid (X)HTML (this might be
visible if there would be an URL)

3. or there is a namespace declared
for example in the DOCTYPE (a bit like for
MathML), that tells the browser how to make sense of
the pstag nodes (this would be visible with the URL)

Implementation at #1 (server-side pre-processing)
does not depend on browser XML+XSLT capabilities, and
it would be the easiest way to be dealt with by browsers,
but you will see what happens when you will have a working version.