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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn · May 8, 2009

Garrett said:
Thomas said:

Garrett said:

Garrett Smith wrote:
kangax wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
[...]
Example
That was the wrong example, try again:-
<!doctype html>

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Not Valid.

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True, but does trigger standards mode in the browsers tested (and that
has been discussed here).

Red herring.

Is that scorn or are you trying to discuss the use of |in| in host object?

I am just fascinated that although it has been discussed to death you still
use it.

Regarding the use of |in| with host object, I mentioned the "false
positive" edge case using "99999" in document.styleSheets in IE, nearly
1 month ago. I have been looking for more cases that fail. Such failure
cases would give more weight to the argument of |in| being inappropriate
for host objects.

Proof by (bad) example. The probability that there are 100'000 stylesheets
in a single document and that this needs to be tested is close to 0.

if(typeof rules != "undefined") {

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Given that we are talking host objects, `rules' may store any value at this
point. The test is insufficient.

document.write("<pre>rules[0].selectorText: " + rules[0].selectorText
+ "<" + "/pre>");

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Smart people use "<\/" to hide ETAGO delimiters from SGML(-ish) parsers
since about the turn of the century.

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It is a little easier to do it with a backslash.

It is also more efficient, easier legible, and easier to maintain.

Certainly much easier than arguing about it.

I don't know exactly what kind of fallacy this is, but it is one.

Either way would work, though.

Red herring.

document.write("<p>assign rules[0].selectorText = 'body'...</p>");
try {
rules[0].selectorText = "body";

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Nobody tried (or would even attempt trying) to modify `selectorText' but
you. You were willing to concede that point in
<yet one hour 22 minutes
later you are starting this again. What the heck is wrong with you?

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I have noticed you have a tendency to blame others for not understanding
what you do not understand.

Ad hominem fallacy.

In this case, you seem to not understand is why I am testing assigning
to selectorText. The reason I am doing that is because I am curious as
to how browsers would handle that.

It is a waste of time trying to do things that are not supposed to work.

PointedEars

seani · May 9, 2009

It is a waste of time trying to do things that are not supposed to work.

Really?

I'd expect, in that case, that there are no browsers that exhibit
unexpected or apparently non-deterministic behaviour when they
encounter incorrectly formed DHTML/JS?

Thank God, for instance, that IE in particular doesn't have a history
of jinking and twisting itself into a heap in an attempt to
accommodate and render any old shite rather than flagging an error,
leaving bewildered developers in it's wake.

Oh, hang on, I meant to say exactly the opposite.

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn · May 9, 2009

seani said:
Really?

Yes, really.

I'd expect, in that case, that there are no browsers that exhibit
unexpected or apparently non-deterministic behaviour when they
encounter incorrectly formed DHTML/JS?

Ignoratio elenchi.

Thank God, for instance, that IE in particular doesn't have a history
of jinking and twisting itself into a heap in an attempt to
accommodate and render any old shite rather than flagging an error,
leaving bewildered developers in it's wake.

Oh, hang on, I meant to say exactly the opposite.

Yes, in your second "argument" you are referring to things here that are
*supposed to work* but don't (in MSHTML-based UAs). Those need to be
tested, of course.

PointedEars

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