comma puzzle

[Nick Wedd]

The real point of my post was to followup your conclusion that when you
ran the OP's code, you got 000, while he got 111, and I just wanted to
show how the OP might have arrived there.

OP here: you are right.

My code was
my $i;
for ( $i=0 , $i<10 , $i++ ) { print $i; }
but I originally gave it, incorrectly, as
for ( my $i=0 , $i<10 , $i++ ) { print $i; }
not realising, at the time, that it made a difference.

Thanks to you all, I have learned things from this thread.

Suspected what? That typos are made? It's just lazy typing on my part,
which is quite common for anyone having spent enough time in the USA - I
would largely blame TV and Hollywood and even Radio, given that many of
these bad grammatical habits tend to come from sources such as these.

I don't think that the USA or TV should be blamed. Film and radio,
possibly. At school in England, before TVs were commonplace, "would of"
was frequently corrected by our English teachers.

Nick

 

[Jürgen Exner]

Suspected what? That typos are made? It's just lazy typing on my part,
which is quite common for anyone having spent enough time in the USA -

Unfortunately (or depending on your view maybe fortunately) that doesn't
apply to the vast majority of inhabitants of the third planet of the
solar system. To a non-native speaker those slips in spelling are
confusing, in particular when they are repetitive. As long as they are
random they can be attributed to typos and people will do a best guess
as to what may have been meant. But I did find myself sometimes
searching for translations in dictioniaries on- and offline only to
realize much later that that person simply invented their own spelling
for some common expression.

I think it's also a change in culture. While in the past people tried to
appear as educated as possible (and correct use of language is a large
part of that) nowadays sub-culture is popular and people pride
themselves in being uneducated.

So IMHO, there's little point in making a point of it unless it
completely changes the meaning of what was being said, which clearly
wasn't the case here.

Maybe. But what you wrote didn't make sense as written. IMNSHO it is
simply inconsiderate and rude to deliberately use "cute" or "in" or
"cool" spellings.

jue

 

[szr]

Unfortunately (or depending on your view maybe fortunately) that
doesn't apply to the vast majority of inhabitants of the third planet
of the solar system. To a non-native speaker those slips in spelling
are confusing, in particular when they are repetitive. As long as
they are random they can be attributed to typos and people will do a
best guess as to what may have been meant. But I did find myself
sometimes searching for translations in dictioniaries on- and offline
only to realize much later that that person simply invented their own
spelling for some common expression.

I think it's also a change in culture. While in the past people tried
to appear as educated as possible (and correct use of language is a
large part of that) nowadays sub-culture is popular and people pride
themselves in being uneducated.

I admit I am not perfect, but I do try to proof read my posts before
hitting Send, but I think it is a little bit much to expect everyone to
be absolutely perfect each time. Everyone makes errors sometimes.
Granted, it's a little embarrassing to make the same mistake multiple
times in a row, but when something gets subconsciously embedded into
your mind (such a long weekend which involved several juvenile films),
that can happen, even when that person wouldn't normally make that
mistake - in my case "would|could|should of" is not a way I typically
write that sort of sequence.

Maybe. But what you wrote didn't make sense as written. IMNSHO it is
simply inconsiderate and rude to deliberately use "cute" or "in" or
"cool" spellings.

I wasn't in any way attempting to be rude. Lets be real here; it was a
typo. Even non-native English speakers would have little trouble knowing
what was meant, especially since many non-native speakers, at least in
this part of the USA, tend to pick up bad habits like this from the get
go, but I do admit it may have some dependence on the locale, but
various media outlets also do little help those wanting to learn proper
grammar.