creating a new language

[mcheung63]

Hi All.
creating a new language, i want to call it Titan. Is this word easy to pronounce? i am not western people so want to ask.
thanks
from Peter ([email protected])

 

[Keith D. Lee]

Hi All.
creating a new language, i want to call it Titan. Is this word easy
to pronounce? i am not western people so want to ask.
thanks from Peter ([email protected])

Peter:
Sounds great to me. What are the differences and/or similarities between Titan and Java?

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

creating a new language, i want to call it Titan. Is this word easy to pronounce? i am not western people so want to ask.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan indicates Titan is widely used for
names (but no programming language yet).

Arne

 

[mcheung63]

Thanks Keith
It would be a cloud programming language

 

[mcheung63]

Arne Vajhøjæ–¼ 2013å¹´7月21日星期日UTC+8下åˆ9時27分07秒寫é“：

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan indicates Titan is widely used for

names (but no programming language yet).



Arne

Thanks Arne

 

[Jan Burse]

Hi All.
creating a new language, i want to call it Titan. Is this word easy to pronounce? i am not western people so want to ask.
thanks
from Peter ([email protected])

I wouldn't use a name that is already found in a dictionary.
You will later have search engine optimization (SEO) problems.
Its better to invent a name that is new.

But otherwise I think the name could be also improved what
concerns the number of vowels. Names such as Java, Modula, etc..
have a higher vowel ration than Titan.

Bye

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

I wouldn't use a name that is already found in a dictionary.
You will later have search engine optimization (SEO) problems.
Its better to invent a name that is new.

I doubt that Google ranking for a languages name is
that important.

But otherwise I think the name could be also improved what
concerns the number of vowels. Names such as Java, Modula, etc..
have a higher vowel ration than Titan.

Ada - 67%
Java, Modula, Ruby - 50%
Oberon - 43%
Cobol, Basic - 40%
Pascal, Python - 33%
JavaScript - 30%
Fortran - 28%
Lisp - 25%
C, C++, C#, PHP - 0%

It is not that obvious that more wovels means more popular.

Arne

 

[Jan Burse]

I doubt that Google ranking for a languages name is
that important.

Maybe not for the language design, but for the
end-users. Compare the following two searches:

go bug
go programming language bug

Further search engine optimization should address
all search engines. Means not only google:

In the People's Republic of China, Baidu
held a 61.6% market share for web search
in July 2009. In Russian Federation,
Yandex holds around 60% of the market
share as of April 2012.

Finally finding a new name can be surprisingly
difficult. A name original in one language region
can mean somthing in another language region.

Bye

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

[snip]

Finally finding a new name can be surprisingly
difficult. A name original in one language region
can mean somthing in another language region.

Or in another use of language area.

An example of this is looking up information on CARDIAC
(Cardboard Illustrative Aid to Computation) without spelling out the
acronym.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[Jan Burse]

Or in another use of language area.
Gene Wirchenko

Yeah, it is sad. For example if you search for
Java on google, you won't get the Java island
on the first 10 hits. Although Java, the island,
has 141 millionen inhabitants.

Bye

 

[Jan Burse]

Yeah, it is sad. For example if you search for
Java on google, you won't get the Java island
on the first 10 hits. Although Java, the island,
has 141 millionen inhabitants.

Bye

But you won't have the above problem, if
you choose a word that is not contained
in vocabularies.

Titan is not such a word. Java, Ada,
Oberon are neither. Modula on the other
hand is a recent creation.

But I guess one has not only to scan
vocabularies, but also brand registers
etc..

For example although modula is not
a common word, it is found in many
product names:

Atradius Modula
modula wave
Notebook MODULA 15M02
modula city
modula rosti mepal
modula lift
modula plus berding

Bye

 

[Roedy Green]

creating a new language, i want to call it Titan.

It is easy to pronounce, but it already has two meanings -- the moon
and the giants of Greek mythology. It might also get confused with
Titian the artist.

For google, you want a unique spelling.

A cloud language might be named with a modification of some Latin word
for a type of cloud. e.g. cir, cumu

 

[Joerg Meier]

But you won't have the above problem, if
you choose a word that is not contained
in vocabularies.

Titan is not such a word. Java, Ada,
Oberon are neither. Modula on the other
hand is a recent creation.

Another solution is an intentional "misspelling", such as with Google Guice
(which is pronounced Juice, which obviously wouldn't be terribly
google-able).

Liebe Gruesse,
Joerg

 

[Joerg Meier]

It is easy to pronounce, but it already has two meanings -- the moon
and the giants of Greek mythology. It might also get confused with
Titian the artist.

The moon is of course named after the mythology, as are a LOT of other
things:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan

Who knew there was a SUNFLOWER type named Titan ? You learn something new
every day.

Liebe Gruesse,
Joerg

 

[Lew]

mcheung63 wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

creating a new language, i [sic] want to call it Titan.

It is easy to pronounce, but it already has two meanings -- the moon
and the giants of Greek mythology.

The moon is named after the Greek myth, so that really isn't two things, exactly.

"Titan" is also a general word meaning "large presence", as in "he is a titan of industry".

All three of those things might well be desirable associations for this new language. They
sure don't seem like negatives or reasons to avoid the name.

It might also get confused with Titian the artist.

Not a chance. Most people aren't as erudite as you. Those who might think you mean
"Titian" are the sort likely to be aware that it is not the same as "Titan".

For google, you want a unique spelling.

Not really, at least not inherently. For example, if you are interested in Java 'for' loops,
obviously you don't search for "for", but for "Java for loop". You cannot second-guess others'
google-fu to come up with your own name.

A cloud language might be named with a modification of some Latin word
for a type of cloud. e.g. cir, cumu

Ok, "cumu" is an awful name for a product. "Cumulo", maybe. "Nimbus" or some variant, surely.
"Stratus" makes sense, and so does "Cirrus".

OTOH, a cloud language (what *is* a "cloud language"?) might not be named with a variant
of some Latin word for a type of cloud.

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

Maybe not for the language design, but for the
end-users. Compare the following two searches:

go bug
go programming language bug

I know that I would never chose a language
based on how easy it is to search for in google.

I find it hard to believe that other will.

But ....


Arne

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

It is easy to pronounce, but it already has two meanings -- the moon
and the giants of Greek mythology. It might also get confused with
Titian the artist.

For google, you want a unique spelling.

So Java is doomed because there is an island with that name.

And C# is doomed because that is used in music.

I don't think so.

Arne

 

[Roedy Green]

The moon is named after the Greek myth, so that really isn't two things, exactly.

From the point of view of looking things up, it is two quite different
things. Sometimes you want the moon, sometimes the mythology. The
mythological connection is most of the time irrelevant and just a
nuisance when you google "Titan".

In a similar way "orange" the colour and "orange" the fruit are two
different things even though they are logically related.

 

[Lew]

Lew wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :

From the point of view of looking things up, it is two quite different
things. Sometimes you want the moon, sometimes the mythology. The

And then you add "moon" or "myth" to your search terms.

mythological connection is most of the time irrelevant and just a
nuisance when you google "Titan".

Anyone who just googles "Titan" doesn't know how to do online searches.

In a similar way "orange" the colour and "orange" the fruit are two
different things even though they are logically related.

So by your logic we should change one of those in order to make it easier to search.

Pretty much any search based on just one word is a stupidly framed search, so none of
that argument is relevant.

 

[Eric Sosman]

So Java is doomed because there is an island with that name.

And C# is doomed because that is used in music.

I don't think so.

He could try "hiybbprqag" ...