Gateway

[Robert Klemme]

Folks,

I'm sorry I have to bring up this issue again. But there are definitely
postings that don't get through from the list to the NG. I start getting
slightly annoyed by this, because it makes following threads hard that are
fed from both sides... :-(

Please, can anybody take care of this?

Kind regards

robert

 

[ts]

R> I'm sorry I have to bring up this issue again. But there are definitely
R> postings that don't get through from the list to the NG. I start getting
R> slightly annoyed by this, because it makes following threads hard that are
R> fed from both sides... :-(

Well, this is the gateway which has problem or it's just a bad propagation
on USENET ?


Guy Decoux

 

[Gavin Sinclair]

Folks,

I'm sorry I have to bring up this issue again. But there are definitely
postings that don't get through from the list to the NG. I start
getting slightly annoyed by this, because it makes following threads
hard that are fed from both sides... :-(

Please, can anybody take care of this?

Surely it's time the gateway code was put on RubyForge, enhanced with
proper logging (assuming it's not already) and the logs made available for
public consumption?

Gavin

 

[Simon Strandgaard]

Surely it's time the gateway code was put on RubyForge, enhanced with
proper logging (assuming it's not already) and the logs made available for
public consumption?

Gavin

Gavin, excelent idea.. I vote yes on this too.


For instance, postings from David Black doesn't show up on the
newsgroup (at least where I am).. which is a shame.
I don't know how many other persons I which is invisible in that way.
Sometimes I find important replies on ruby-talk, months after the
discussion took place. It would be really nice to get the gateway
fixed.

 

[Bauduin Raphael]

Gavin, excelent idea.. I vote yes on this too.


For instance, postings from David Black doesn't show up on the
newsgroup (at least where I am).. which is a shame.
I don't know how many other persons I which is invisible in that way.
Sometimes I find important replies on ruby-talk, months after the
discussion took place. It would be really nice to get the gateway
fixed.

Just wanted to let know I also access the newsgroup and that I would
greatly appreciate if the gateway was fixed. I won't be able to help on
the coding though

Raph

 

[ts]

S> For instance, postings from David Black doesn't show up on the
S> newsgroup (at least where I am).. which is a shame.

Well, at least for the thread "New Local Variable Scope rule" David Alan
Black posted from USENET and I from ruby-talk.

Now, on my news servers I have the same article than in my mailbox.

You can't solve a bad USENET propagation, with the gateway.


Guy Decoux

 

[Simon Strandgaard]

S> For instance, postings from David Black doesn't show up on the
S> newsgroup (at least where I am).. which is a shame.

Well, at least for the thread "New Local Variable Scope rule" David Alan
Black posted from USENET and I from ruby-talk.

Now, on my news servers I have the same article than in my mailbox.

You can't solve a bad USENET propagation, with the gateway.

Hmm. I think its time for me to switch away from Usenet, and
use the ruby-talk mailinglist instead.

For usenet I use 'pan'.. Can anyone recommend a good
mail client, which can show threads?
some kind of lightweight GUI mailclient for unix ?
Thanks in advance

 

[Robert Klemme]

R> I'm sorry I have to bring up this issue again. But there are definitely
R> postings that don't get through from the list to the NG. I start getting
R> slightly annoyed by this, because it makes following threads hard that are
R> fed from both sides... :-(

Well, this is the gateway which has problem or it's just a bad propagation
on USENET ?

IMHO the gateway is the much more likely cause since I don't observe this
phenomenon in other technical newsgroups which I assume have a similar
distribution of posters. No 100% proof of course...

Kind regards

robert

 

[Robert Klemme]

Hmm. I think its time for me to switch away from Usenet, and
use the ruby-talk mailinglist instead.

For usenet I use 'pan'.. Can anyone recommend a good
mail client, which can show threads?
some kind of lightweight GUI mailclient for unix ?
Thanks in advance

mutt - no graphical UI but very nice handling of MIME and threads and it
has elaborate configuration options.

robert

 

[Robert Klemme]

S> For instance, postings from David Black doesn't show up on the
S> newsgroup (at least where I am).. which is a shame.

Well, at least for the thread "New Local Variable Scope rule" David Alan
Black posted from USENET and I from ruby-talk.

Now, on my news servers I have the same article than in my mailbox.

Hm, noone claimed that *no* messages get through. But it seems that the
GW does eat messages. For example the thread "How do you know it quacks
like a duck?" starts with a reply on my news server. Are there others
that observe the same problem with this particular thread?

You can't solve a bad USENET propagation, with the gateway.

True. *If* it's the usenet propagation.

Regards

robert

 

[Simon Strandgaard]

Hm, noone claimed that *no* messages get through. But it seems that the
GW does eat messages. For example the thread "How do you know it quacks
like a duck?" starts with a reply on my news server. Are there others
that observe the same problem with this particular thread?

Yes, the reply was the first thing also saw.

 

[Bauduin Raphael]

Hm, noone claimed that *no* messages get through. But it seems that the
GW does eat messages. For example the thread "How do you know it quacks
like a duck?" starts with a reply on my news server. Are there others
that observe the same problem with this particular thread?

I can also confirm this on my news server. Thread starts with a message
from Dan Doel. It's also the only message I see in the thread for the
moment.

Raph

 

[Aredridel]

For usenet I use 'pan'.. Can anyone recommend a good

mail client, which can show threads?
some kind of lightweight GUI mailclient for unix ?
Thanks in advance

Sylpheed -- lightweight, GTK-based. Decently easy to use.

Mutt is my personal favorite -- not GUI-based, but has some very nice
features for dealing with the four-digit number of emails I get in a
day.

Evolution has good threading, but lightweight isn't in its vocabulary.

Ari

 

[Simon Strandgaard]

Sylpheed -- lightweight, GTK-based. Decently easy to use.

Mutt is my personal favorite -- not GUI-based, but has some very nice
features for dealing with the four-digit number of emails I get in a
day.

Evolution has good threading, but lightweight isn't in its vocabulary.

Will try Sylpheed.

I currently use Evolution, but its too resource consuming, takes
forever to startup/teardown. When I click on compose it takes several
seconds before the window appear on my display.

Besides that, what does people use of GUI clients for ruby-talk?

 

[Paul Vudmaska]

Will try Sylpheed.

I currently use Evolution, but its too resource consuming, takes
forever to startup/teardown. When I click on compose it takes several
seconds before the window appear on my display.

Besides that, what does people use of GUI clients for ruby-talk?

I'm using mozilla(1.6) composer on windows and mac. Runs fairly decent
on modest HW.

 

[Rove Monteux]

Me Mozilla's mail client on OBSD, robust, no threads and no fancy
features to organize mail other than filters and folders.


Cheers

Rove Monteux

 

[Dan Doel]

Currently I use fetchmail -> procmail to get my e-mail and spam filter it,
and view it and then KMail to view it. KMail starts up relatively fast and
isn't too heavy (I'd say Evolution : KMail :: Outlook : Outlook Express).
I'm sure you could set it up to do filtering and stuff on its own, as well.
The only problem is it'll be harder to make it blend in with Gnome if that's
what you're using.

I've also used Mozilla Thunderbird. It's coming along nicely. It looks
pretty and has built-in junk-mail training (not so much a problem for your
ruby-talk account, but more for other mail, if you use it for that). It's a
little slower to start up, but I always keep it open anyways. It'll probably
blend in with Gnome better as well.

They're both good products, as is Sylpheed (although Sylpheed is a little
plain looking ).

- Dan

 

[David Alan Black]

Hi --

S> For instance, postings from David Black doesn't show up on the
S> newsgroup (at least where I am).. which is a shame.

Well, at least for the thread "New Local Variable Scope rule" David Alan
Black posted from USENET and I from ruby-talk.

What I've been doing is reading ruby-talk (so that I see everything)
and switching to Usenet to reply (so that everyone will see what I
write). Not very convenient.

Now, on my news servers I have the same article than in my mailbox.

Here are a few of the ones that never made it to Google Groups or to
my Usenet provider. If your news server received any of these, please
forward to me with all the headers:

91281
91536
92714
92846
92847

Thanks.

You can't solve a bad USENET propagation, with the gateway.

The gateway code does not appear to reject my messages (based on some
local tests), so whatever's happening is further along the chain. I
think Dennis was going to talk to the news admins and see what might
be happening (not sure if he has yet).


David

 

[Hal Fulton]

The gateway code does not appear to reject my messages (based on some
local tests), so whatever's happening is further along the chain. I
think Dennis was going to talk to the news admins and see what might
be happening (not sure if he has yet).

Well, I suppose it's possible that the geographic location of the
gateway is an issue (actually the choice of providers).

Of course, that is largely not negotiable unless someone volunteers to
take charge of the software in Dennis's place.

Hal

 

[Simon Strandgaard]

Will try Sylpheed.

Just did cvsup of ports/mail, and began installing.
However it failed.. and now my 'gvim' no longer works..
big panic here!

server> gvim
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.4" not found
server>

the make failed like this.. I know I should be sending this
to the author.. but now I am more concerned about getting gvim working!

a nightmare has become reality!!

checking where the gettext function comes from... external libintl
checking how to link with libintl... /usr/local/lib/libintl.so -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib
checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib12-config
checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.6... yes
checking for gtk-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config
checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.6... no
*** Could not run GTK test program, checking why...
*** The test program compiled, but did not run. This usually means
*** that the run-time linker is not finding GTK or finding the wrong
*** version of GTK. If it is not finding GTK, you'll need to set your
*** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point
*** to the installed location Also, make sure you have run ldconfig if that
*** is required on your system
***
*** If you have an old version installed, it is best to remove it, although
*** you may also be able to get things to work by modifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH
***
*** If you have a RedHat 5.0 system, you should remove the GTK package that
*** came with the system with the command
***
*** rpm --erase --nodeps gtk gtk-devel
configure: error: Test for GTK failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.
===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to (e-mail address removed) [maintainer] and attach the
"/usr/ports/mail/sylpheed/work/sylpheed-0.9.10/config.log" including the
output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to
provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/sylpheed.
server#