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Simon Strandgaard

server> gvim
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.4" not found
server>

a nightmare has become reality!!

Ok.. I am no longer in panic state

server# ln -s libintl.so libintl.so.4
server# pwd
/usr/local/lib

Such experiences is not for people with bad hearts.

Now it seems to be compiling Sylpheed.
 
M

Michael campbell

Dan said:
I've also used Mozilla Thunderbird. It's coming along nicely. It looks
pretty and has built-in junk-mail training (not so much a problem for your
ruby-talk account, but more for other mail, if you use it for that). It's a
little slower to start up, but I always keep it open anyways. It'll probably
blend in with Gnome better as well.

Just as a data point, I've found Thunderbird's [allegedly] Bayesian spam
filtering to be rather... bad. It seems to have a time of learning, as to be
expected, then it gets better for a bit, then for some reason just gets worse
and worse.

I've gone back to POPFile (see sourceforge) as a proxy. It never fails to get
better over time, and at both my work and home accounts, it's in the 99+%
range in accuracy.

For similar time periods, I could never get above 75% or so accuracy with
T-bird. A look at the forums there seems to indicate this is pretty widespread.

I don't know if they've implemented the Graham algorithm poorly, or the
algorithm is just inherently flawed (some research (not by me) indicate it
might be), but a vanilla bayesian formula works much much better. YMMV, as is
always the case with this sort of thing.

That said, I still use T-bird as a client, just not with its spam capabilities.
 
S

Simon Strandgaard

Now it seems to be compiling Sylpheed.

I am now replying via mail with Sylpheed.

Its much more responsive than evolusion, it only spawns one process
(evolusion spawns at least 5 weird processes, which only clutters 'ps aux' up).

Thanks for all your suggestions.
 
D

Dan Doel

Yeah, I agree. I could never get Thunderbird to catch all of my spam. It did
get a lot eventually, but I'd have probably 10 - 20 messages a day that it
didn't catch.

Like I said, I currently use fetchmail -> procmail to get my e-mail, and spam
filter with that. Bogofilter catches most of the spam, and what it doesn't get
SpamAssassin does (which is another nice advantage. I can have several
spam filters and have them all train off of one another. Very geeky :)).

I haven't used Thunderbird in a couple months, though, so I thought I'd give
it the benefit of the doubt. It could have improved.

- Dan
 
D

daz

ts said:
Now, on my news servers I have the same article than in my mailbox.

That's _very_ interesting, Guy.

Can you find any from the list below on your news server ?


Random searches on Google from this list show gaps and I'm sure
Ggl will take feeds down more than one route.


daz

======================================================================
Apologies for the long sig. Please delete to end if replying.


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Within "X-Mail-Count:" range 94100..96620
~(03 Mar 2004 -> 06 Apr 2004)

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T

ts

D> 92847

Too old for me, sorry. The first message in my news server is dated 8
april 2004. This message is 13 february 2004


Guy Decoux
 
D

David Alan Black

Hi --

Hal Fulton said:
Well, I suppose it's possible that the geographic location of the
gateway is an issue (actually the choice of providers).

I don't think so, for two reasons: first, because it used to work
(before about January); second, because my messages do go through
if (and only if) I start a new thread. So it seems to be something
less clear cut.


David
 
D

Dick Davies

* Simon Strandgaard said:
Just did cvsup of ports/mail, and began installing.
However it failed.. and now my 'gvim' no longer works..
big panic here!

server> gvim
/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.4" not found
server>

Looks to me like libintl got bumped without you knowing.
the make failed like this.. I know I should be sending this
to the author.. but now I am more concerned about getting gvim working!
a nightmare has become reality!!

Yeah, they have a habit of doing that <g>

Have you got a libintl.so.<anything else>? (I'd guess '5')
Just

ln -s libintl.so.4 libintl.so.5

and hopefully gvim won't notice.

If that doesn't fix it try rebuilding GTK.
 
S

Simon Strandgaard

Dick Davies said:
* Simon Strandgaard <[email protected]> [0454 23:54]:

Looks to me like libintl got bumped without you knowing.
the make failed like this.. I know I should be sending this
to the author.. but now I am more concerned about getting gvim working!
a nightmare has become reality!!

Yeah, they have a habit of doing that <g>

Have you got a libintl.so.<anything else>? (I'd guess '5')
Just

ln -s libintl.so.4 libintl.so.5

and hopefully gvim won't notice.

If that doesn't fix it try rebuilding GTK.

In another posting I wrote via sylpheed that I got it fixed.
Yes.. I had to make a symlink to 'libintl.so.6'
Also 'libexpat.so.4' were broken, so xterm didn't work (really scary).
I don't want to know why xterm depends on expat.

Those terrible minutes where it didn't worked, I considered switching
OS, write my own OS.. Such a disaster could have been avoided if unixes
instead of root/ports had a more finegrained permission system
and a better ports system.
 
D

Dick Davies

Those terrible minutes where it didn't worked, I considered switching
OS, write my own OS.. Such a disaster could have been avoided if unixes
instead of root/ports had a more finegrained permission system
and a better ports system.

See NetBSD pkgviews -
lets you have multiple versions of a library installed.

http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/software/pkgviews.pdf
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2004/01/06/0004.html

I'm hoping to cross-pollinate some of the rubygems ideas
to/from pkgsrc as I find out more about it.
 
A

Alexander Kellett

Besides that, what does people use of GUI clients for ruby-talk?

read my sig :)

previous to opera i was a mutt user, then a few months with kmail which
ain't too bad.
opera's the only gui even vaguely comparable speed/power wise.
they are all slow compared to mutt though. sylpheed is just plain too ugly
for me :)

mvg,
Alex
 

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